Character Naming Standards

What are the drawbacks of enforcing Character Naming Standards? Seeing the bots named “hshemm00dd” running around ruins immersion and reminds us of their presence. I don’t think enforcing naming standards would prevent bots - but it would at least help fade the problem to the background since no game seems capable of stopping them.

But my question remains why isn’t regulation more common? Why is it so important to allow those select few crazies (actual players) to name their character 987654321boom?

Seems like a no brainer to me to have rules like:

- no numbers
- no special characters (accented letters allowed)
- same letter cannot appear more than twice in a row
- First letter must be capitalized along with every letter after a space (with some exceptions)
- etc… you get the idea… would be pretty easy to implement a good filter.

I’m new to the AOC hype train so my apologies if this has already been addressed.

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Tyranthraxus

Def have to agree on the special characters. You have to keep a chart of what to press taped to the desk, when messaging such people.

Azherae

Welcome to the hype train.

Last time the topic came up was here.

Join in!

Taleof2Cities

We’ll see what Intrepid has put in place (if anything) for Alpha 2, Xejo.

I agree with the spirit of your post, though.

Bots have to get through a $15 paywall first and foremost … they have to subscribe. Ashes not being an F2P game is a windfall in the war against bots.

After that, I’m not sure how much alpha-numeric order prevention is going to help, however.

Don’t worry though. I’ve already reserved these names:

hshemm00dd
987654321boom
LOLSUP

(kidding)

Taaku

I would actually like to see the return of the required first and last name as well.
Or you pick a first name for each character created and a last name for the account.

Depraved

Xejo wrote: »

What are the drawbacks of enforcing Character Naming Standards? Seeing the bots named “hshemm00dd” running around ruins immersion and reminds us of their presence. I don’t think enforcing naming standards would prevent bots - but it would at least help fade the problem to the background since no game seems capable of stopping them.

But my question remains why isn’t regulation more common? Why is it so important to allow those select few crazies (actual players) to name their character 987654321boom?

Seems like a no brainer to me to have rules like:

- no numbers
- no special characters (accented letters allowed)
- same letter cannot appear more than twice in a row
- First letter must be capitalized along with every letter after a space (with some exceptions)
- etc… you get the idea… would be pretty easy to implement a good filter.

I’m new to the AOC hype train so my apologies if this has already been addressed.

wow the same thread twice in a month!

i dont like naming restrictions, aside having them for technical issues

also regarding your rules...that doesnt work against bots and just ruin players.

- no numbers
- no special characters (accented letters allowed)
- same letter cannot appear more than twice in a row
- First letter must be capitalized along with every letter after a space (with some exceptions)
-

i cant be legloasthe4th anymore
i cant be doomhammer anymore

i cant be xXDepravedXx anymore

ive always hated the immerson argument. read the other thread azherae posted to find out why ;3

Trickster

Totally agree, there should be some restrictions over numbers etc

Xejo

@Depraved

I apologized ahead of time if the topic had already been brought up... I'm new here. Easy tiger. I can already tell you're quite staunch in your views so I'll make no attempt to rebut. I hope you get those names you mentioned, "LegolasTheFourth, Doomhammer, and XxDepravedxX.

Depraved

Xejo wrote: »

@Depraved

I apologized ahead of time if the topic had already been brought up... I'm new here. Easy tiger. I can already tell you're quite staunch in your views so I'll make no attempt to rebut. I hope you get those names you mentioned, "LegolasTheFourth, Doomhammer, and XxDepravedxX.

oh dont get me wrong i hate some of the names people use. back in the day in ragnarok seeing 30 different people named xxkakashixx or ookakashioo or kirito and all their variations was annoying as hell and made my blood boil, and they werent even bots, they were real players!

i believe people should have the freedom to name themselves however they want. why is your immersion more important? im not here so you have a good time, im here to have fun and a good time myself. (when i say you or me, i mean people in general).

since you are new you probably havent seen it, but there was a guy wanting people to get banned from the game if they used emotes near him when he was doing his meta roleplay campaign because it would ruin his immersion. wtf seriously? then you have other people wanting others to get punished/ banned / forced a name change if they dont use immersive names. so now we all gonna have to use an elvish name if we play an elf? or an orcish name if we play an orc? otherwise we get banned? again, we are here for ourselves, not for others. if i wanna name myself taxidriver, i shouldnt be punished or forced a name change for that. call people selfish if you wish.

regarding the examples i provided, i may not be able to use legolasthefourth because of character limit. for example, ive played many games where the char limit is 8 characters and i cant use my real life name because it has 9 =/ i dont really wanna use legolasthe4th, but it was an example. ive used doomhammer though, and id never use xxsomethingxx but some people do and they should be allowed to do so.

the argument for immersion is pretty oppressive. "like hey im here, my fun is more important so im gonna call steven and oppress you because you arent playing in the way i want. you need to play how i want".

Caww

No matter how restrictive the naming policy is enforced there will always be a name that "offends" somebody else; it could be as simple as an Arabic/Asian/Hispanic originating name offending a racist (to use an extreme example). Players are just going to have to accept a wide-ranging level of names they may not prefer to see.

Xejo

Caww wrote: »

No matter how restrictive the naming policy is enforced there will always be a name that "offends" somebody else; it could be as simple as an Arabic/Asian/Hispanic originating name offending a racist (to use an extreme example). Players are just going to have to accept a wide-ranging level of names they may not prefer to see.

While I agree, I'm not concerned about anything offensive. Folks need to toughen up and stop being offended. I'm more concerned about the ridiculous/nonsensical names. But in the end, you're right, I don't expect any hard restrictions and we'll all just have to deal with what we see out there.

Kilion

We had this topic fairly recently and I ultimately came to the conclusion that the only reasonable name rules Intrepid can enforce are 1) no numbers in names 2) no cusswords from the language(s) in the server region and 3) no special signs from outside the server region

Names won't become "better" or more "immersive" by enforcing more. If someone does not give a damn, they'll still be able to name there character "Corndoger", "Dickus Longonium" or "Tyts McJiggleson". There is no universal rule for what is deemed "immersive" and if Intrepid puts a ruleset out there that has more than 5 different limitations, they basically could just give people a random name generator, because the more rules you put up the more someone will try to find the loopholes to them.

Regarding bots: I share the concern about bots but there is no point in just slapping nice name on them. A2 hopefully establishes a very strong database of human behavior patterns that make it almost impossible to run a bot reliably. Additionally I'd hope that Intrepid is ruthless when someone breaks the TOS (terms of service) regarding RMT (real money transaction), blocking the registration of accounts with data linked to an incident of RMT. GMs should closely investigate characters and accounts that security system has found to act suspicious. And private information could be made almost impossible to share over any of the communication platforms that Intrepid offers. But this topic is probably worth of a separate thread; though I understand that Intrepid cannot share too much information about this topic since they will want to avoid giving hints to people who are looking for exploits.

Depraved

Kilion wrote: »

"Corndoger", "Dickus Longonium" or "Tyts McJiggleson".

bruh thoe names are awesome, how did u come up with them?

Xejo

Kilion wrote: »

Additionally I'd hope that Intrepid is ruthless when someone breaks the TOS (terms of service) regarding RMT (real money transaction), blocking the registration of accounts with data linked to an incident of RMT. GMs should closely investigate characters and accounts that security system has found to act suspicious. And private information could be made almost impossible to share over any of the communication platforms that Intrepid offers. But this topic is probably worth of a separate thread;

I have battle scars from New World’s bots. I’d love nothing more than a game that takes a hard stance against any/all suspicious behavior. I hope you’re right.

I’m sticking to my guns on the immersion though. Fine. It’s not popular. But I’d rather team up with Killon/Caww/Depraved than I would Kkoo00ll11.

Depraved

numbers are good in names, that way you can identify who the bots are and mob drop them and take their loot

Kilion

@Depraved I played WoW from launch to Warlords of Dreanor and I write story for my TTRPG group - suffice to say I have seen and came up with tons of wacky names

@Xejo I get that and I also preferred making up names that sound real for a fantasy setting as well as played on RP servers, but that also taught me that real immersion ultimately comes down to people deciding to stick to it. Which is what I hope for with Ashes: Servers will be vastly different and I am almost certain that servers will develop their own reputation over time. There will be servers where the people are much more prone to war than others, people will probably migrate naturally to servers that have a reputation that fits their vision of how the game "should" be played. This could mean an RPG server where the majority of people are hardcore when it comes to immersion will discriminate against those who say "Don't care, don't conform", but when their wares for example are not being purchased from the action house and they can't enter guilds the social limitations could drive them out. Now don't get me wrong: I know this is not nice, but I think this within the rules and therefore a viable way to create a server in line with what players want.

Depraved

until a pvp guild comes to liberate those who suffer under the RPGers opression

Voeltz

No special characters, no numbers, no curse words, No mixed capitals and spaces, no repeat letters like XX or lll, no repeat patterns like ababababa or ilililili. As for other troll names I don't see a realistic way in preventing it unless they wanted to have a long list of exclusions for certain words and/or moderate it. I recall certain games having exclusions for main story character's names so I'm sure it's possible.

AnimusRex

If they add to the lore that there are just as many dickheads on Verra as Earth, the immersion problem goes away.

You're welcome.

Jigsaw

I agree I hope there aint names like there is in OSRS. Mind you OSRS is abit different as its all one "server". I bought my Alpha 2 key back in 2017 and have not been following this game too too deep to not over hype it. although does anyone know in here if names will ever be able to be reserved for the official launch? I don't wanna be stuck being blank out of decent names I wanna use once it launches.

Kilion

Jigsaw wrote: »

I agree I hope there aint names like there is in OSRS. Mind you OSRS is abit different as its all one "server". I bought my Alpha 2 key back in 2017 and have not been following this game too too deep to not over hype it. although does anyone know in here if names will ever be able to be reserved for the official launch? I don't wanna be stuck being blank out of decent names I wanna use once it launches.

I think the Kickstarters can reserve names, but people who have bought the Voyager Package at any point (still available) can do so for sure.

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