edit: this is a simple idea that comes up later in this thread but the sfx for weapons like ship cannons and if added, firearms should be seperate so you can lower the loud sounds of them if you dont like them or the vibe they give off in combat.
edit 2: just saw a great idea (even if guns arent implemented yet again) where certian technologies should be locked beyond node progression or maybe even interesting raids or dungeons that could be made hard enough you could need a full 64 man raid to even try getting them that could unlock a recipe for all the citizens of the node perhaps even permanently to make whatever it may be like say if crossbows get added in a future expansion after launch seen as they arent going to be there on launch anymore, you could have legit technological advancments that nodes will get where one node may learn how to make cannons instead or trebuchets instead of being stuck with battering rams and catapults or they may learn in this case, firearms which would than disperse the same way they did irl of one nation learning about firearms and while not on mass, still making firearms due to the fact that despite their expensiveness and long reloads as well as poor accuracy at longer rangers, when you give a large group of people them and tell them to fire them all in a line, civil war style, even if one would miss the broadside of a barn, the fucking 50 that get shot will have a hard time missing especially if they are being fired at another large group or in a world with magical monsters, giant targets.
for starters, im only suggesting this as an idea for post launch as like a dlc style expansion like how for example, eso got the dark brotherhood skill line. DONT EVEN SAY AGAIN THE 'dont suggest they scope creep when the game has already taken this long!' point for the billionth time please....
before you read this if you just want the TLDR; watch the first video for my general stance on the gun thing and the second on my stance in response to the point i have seen as the comeback each time i have had this disscusion in the forums in the past which is a response to not always haveta copy the LOTR style fantasy and that doing so could even hinder or make worse you content with the rest below the videos is just my idea of just one way to intigrate guns in a magical firearm type way rather than the traditional black powder way and is based on a more modern time period fantasy world so you can replace having cartridges with the runes being engraved into the back of the firearm firing chamber for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9kHXXyoa4 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtPpE_k2yKQ
also for those who want to just be done with this topic all together than just skip to this timestamp (10:27) in the first video about the guns thing and if any of the intrepid team read this comment than PLEASE give this timestamp and the second video watch cause seriously your hate against not just guns but also other things like unarmed fighting and monks is just a bit too much to be so 'IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN CAUSE I HATE THEM....'
also as a last point, im for having differences between races but i will say things like 'ALL GOBLINS ARE EVIL!!!' or 'ALL EVLES ARE OBNOXIOUS FUCK HEADS FOR NATURE OR MAGIC!!!!' better be there cause of say for example a genuine culture that is racist and that could even be an evolving storyline in the lore as more and more goblins start to see the benefits the big civilizations have and work their way to live in them in secert like for example, nott from the critical role campaign 2 with more and more people learning to accept the goblins as more and more goblins start to turn to accepting the ways of society and start to become proper members of it. hoenstly i just prefer you actually THINK about why it is those divides exist rather than just follow the boring stereotypical bs that LITERALLY hundreds of thousands of other people have also already done boringly......
as for what i wanna talk about, im making my own fantasy world that will be one that takes place in a alt version of *earth where kinda like in the witcher, multiple realities proly around our current day were all glomed together mixing in worlds of magic and technology giving you basically the variaity in races of the dnd world but set in a weird futuristic kidna apocalypse but not actually apocalypse style world with a shit ton of still relativly modern today style tech BUT with the added flair of them using magic to replace parts that that can be done with. in this case why i bring it up is because guns take advantage of enchantments to create 'runes' which are basically carved magic circles that when mana is run through them, they create the desired effect almost like a faucet having a specific shape being paired with either a hydromagnetism/concentration to keep the water/mana in the shape of the circle OR just through creating a massive enough faucet or a faucet with high enough water pressure that there isnt even a need to maintain the shape yourself.
basically there are multiple wayts to create this circle with there are people who create these circles within their soul with a soul being the mana a person generates, and these people are called mages or in other words, people with innate magic within themselves as often these faucets for mana are already open for them and they simply either can choose to run their high mana through them at a ridiculous flow rate OR even pull them from themselves far faster than it would normally take to create these magic circles.
another example are wizards who can learn to channel their mana in the air to create these circles that they dont have innately within themselves so their magic takes time but at least if given the time, is far more versitile as most mages often dont learn how to create these circles themselves due to society proping them up so highly and many mages being able to be a wizard in a 1 on 1 fight due to the massive disparity in speed and accuracy.
the last way magic works in my world that ill talk about right now is runes where like i stated earlier, runes are when you carve these magic circles physically into a surface and the issue with these is they are ENTIRELY dependant on your own physical motor skills to make with even trying to say use a spell like mage hand still has limitations as those spells rely on your own input to move anyways introducing the same risk. ultimately these runes grant spells to items to to use but of course, only once completed and once magic is run through them. its this prinicple that gets used by gunsmiths to craft a rune of fire that is just awaiting an input of ANY mana to than use the surrounding mana like a mage or wizard casting a big spell that they themselves wouldnt have the mana to complete to than fire at the right amount to propel the bullet with the way this mana is delived is done in a manner that doesnt even require the person to be able to use magic being, a singular mana crystal on the hammer. if stuck into the center of the circle and stuck by the wall of the chamber it hits at just the right speed, it lets off a small burst of mana in the center of the circle to ignite it propelling the bullet and the benefit to this is also that you allow those with a good understanding of runic magic to even make this more powerful as there are runes that can be set to be always active like durabilty enhancment allowing for greater firepower than should be possible and stronger bullets than one would think that if done right, could pierce even a dragons hide. as for the bullets, that would be where the rune is actually with the rune would be incomplete with the primer on a normal bullet would be replaced with a small plate that when pushed into place by the hammer would complete the circle to ensure your enemy doesnt cause your bullets to misfire by infusing magic into them from a distance.
all in all i hate that people are so against it since it would only make things more immersive because if this stuff REALLY existed, this is what would happen and i still to this day cant understand why some people think the fantasy in their head is more important than making the thing they are working on realistic in the sense that the world actually uses what its has the best it can rather than just randomly and whenever and however the writer feels like... more immersive worlds doesnt mean worse worlds and in fact makes them more fun as you can acutally truly see this world as well thought out REAL world with magic.......
