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PvP only is brain dead and Asmon's video will turn thousands away
Grimseethe
Member, Alpha Two
First of all PvP servers only is really bad, PvE MMOs always do better, on every private server im part of, the PvE servers are always more popular.
I know you have things in place to stop griefing but it wont work, if you're gamers you know the levels folk will go to in order to grief others.
No one with honour ganks and thats all open world pvp is.
Adding that you lose XP on death you have a system that no one wants.
Asmon video of him being harrased straight out the gate, will turn thousands away, honesntly if i knew nothing about the game and didnt already put hundreds towards (I really need to stop doing that, pantheon rise of the fallen if DOA, im never trying it and now it seems like you will fail me also) If Asmon's video was my first introduction to Ashes id completely avoid it.
Fix this or enjoy a DOA game.
I know you have things in place to stop griefing but it wont work, if you're gamers you know the levels folk will go to in order to grief others.
No one with honour ganks and thats all open world pvp is.
Adding that you lose XP on death you have a system that no one wants.
Asmon video of him being harrased straight out the gate, will turn thousands away, honesntly if i knew nothing about the game and didnt already put hundreds towards (I really need to stop doing that, pantheon rise of the fallen if DOA, im never trying it and now it seems like you will fail me also) If Asmon's video was my first introduction to Ashes id completely avoid it.
Fix this or enjoy a DOA game.
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Seriously though. They need to add non-pvp to starter zones and towns. that fixes the asmon issue. if he walks out of those zones and still gets farmed hes an idiot for not getting his rabid fans to group with him and protect him.
This game doesn't work without pvp. People should finally understand, that aoc works a bit different than classic MMOs
Based. Hope Devs will skip this crying weak peoples.
Many many pve mmos out there already so you can go play one of them.
False. Alot of people enjoy a system like this.
This is not a game for everyone.
"PvP servers only"
This game is PvX. This is not a pve game with flagging enabled. This is a PvX game with alot of systems that would not work in a "PvE server"
"Fix this"
They are probably gonna make the starter experience different than what it is now but not redo the entire philosophy of the game, no.
And there are no PvE servers in this game and there won't be. And this is the right approach.
May I ask, why you bought an alpha key without knowing the core design of the game? Literally every other aspect of the game could change, but not this.
Bought into the game long ago, didnt know it was pvp only back then.
how can you suggest that your always proved right when you cant even make an educated purchasing decision, then express buyers remorse..
Followed by an expected forum post that many of us have seen all to many times. Demanding the game changes for something it cant be...
I'm not sure if you've noticed but Asmond is actually bad at games. So using him as a gaslight prop to bend the will of a game that is not designed for him and his crowd will not sway the development direction.
Go back to playing retail WoW...Your game already exists...
It's pvx, not pvp only.
If you don't know what you're buying, you shouldnt ask to change it to something you would like. Feedback is important, but asking a pvx game to have no pvp component is a bit too much. Maybe that's the issue you have with kickstarter MMOs. First understand what they are and want to be.
Even I, who am more optimistic than most, admit we are talking about 18months to 2 years until live. If Asmon's review is going to influence anyone saying, "I reviewed this game 2 years ago, and it sucked", then we probably wouldn't have got them playing anyway.
It would have been better to get him in, if only to test how his followers most destructive behaviors could be delt with. Let's face it , if he could have got in, it could easily have been his supporters camping the spawn.
I find that PvPers gripe a lot when they get out-PvPed. That is why the only PvP games don't last. Once the top dog is established, everyone else is a care-bear, and the game is over.
Why there should be a dedicated streamer server is important however...as it will players at least an option as whether or not they want to participate in such content*
Look I understand Asmond has a zone of influence but he is not making the MMO...Steven is.
I have watched Asmonds content many times and enjoyed some of it and i can tell you his opinion/position has no impact on my intentions to play Ashes of Creation.
The fact of the matter is approaching Ashes of Creation as a catered for streamer platform will not pan out as long term viable MMO and just degenerate it into every other MMO currently on offer.
The ones who cry foul of there not being a PVE have had plenty of time (years) to understand this is a PVX MMO with mandatory player conflict systems required to make the world function.
The PVE only gamers who moan probably have no intention of playing the game anyway Or like you purchased an alpha test package without reading what you're actually supporting and feel short changed...
Oh no, not PvP in an MMO! Look, if you want a pure PvE experience, you’ve got options like World of Warcraft (or as we sometimes call it, World of Carebears) or Final Fantasy Online, both fantastic if you’re into story and crafting without any pesky PvP. Ashes of Creation is trying something different—a true PvX hybrid where PvE and PvP are connected to create a more dynamic world. Steven’s been pretty clear about this game’s design, and it’s not trying to be all things to all players. It’s okay if that’s not your thing; there are plenty of MMOs out there that are PvE-focused.
Now, I’ll agree that there should be safe zones for true beginners and a solid corruption system to handle any griefers, especially for the first few levels. After that? The training wheels come off, and that’s the thrill of Ashes. It’s designed to be challenging, and frankly, it’d be a missed opportunity if the PvE didn’t push players enough to prepare them for the world beyond those early zones.
So, if you're after easy mode, there’s plenty out there already. Ashes of Creation isn’t supposed to be ‘PvE-only,’ and that’s a big part of what sets it apart. Embrace the difference, or maybe stick to safer shores—Ashes isn’t trying to be just another game.
Nowhere did i say i didnt want any pvp.
Ganking takes no skill, ganking is easy mode.
You wont be saying that when cowards gank you.
Already have and instead of crying about it, I fought them back. Corruption is extremely crippling so it was easy.
Plus, I'm smart enough to know that the system's not even near complete and it will change.
No what you said is you want PvP servers which is essentially killing PvP in a game that is extremely competitive for resources gathering resources. Giving PvE players no consequences because you removed the PVP aspect of the game completely destroys the fundamental aspects of it. Ganking will be addressed that’s not PvP but this game is about player driven conflict that means stopping people from farming areas were resources are scarce. Or destroying another node because it’s in your way of development.
It's PvX and I was noticing how many people are forgetting that. Steven was clear about the PvX nature of the game since the very start. It's an important difference from PvP and PvX.
If the cowards want to get account banned and loose everything along with the $15 subscription.
There wont be anywhere to hide, Servers are persistent you cant just dip into another shard...
If you actually took the time to learn the corruption system and follow the open development process while acknowledge this is an Alpha test. You'd stop making dumb uneducated quips trying to make a game something it isn't.
You're essentially expressing your own ignorance at this point, in which case who's "braindead"
Then you'll be happy after you realize how the game systems work, and intend to work. It punishes griefing to a point that there is little to no point. The systems, node systems and caravans especially, are what encourage spontaneous small or large scale PvP.
I haven't seen an MMO encourage that aspect since maybe sewers in Imperial City expansion of ESO, which was probably the peak of PvP for that game for me. Because it created spontaneous PvP, and you risked losing real gains - not like queueing into a BG, castle siege or something.
That's what I wrote?
Asmon knew the game would be like this. Its not his fault that the starter zone can be a gank box, thats on steven and co. But its absolutely on him for not even trying to get friends and fans to group with him for protection when he KNOWS theres a target on his back due to his streaming.
I absolutely think not having a more PvE-oriented server option would be a big turnoff for that more casual playerbase core that carries MMOs.
This game has a potential to be more than just yet another niche PvP MMO and it would be a shame to see it waste that by excluding what is usually the bulk of MMO playerbase.
The game doesn't work without pvp. Again.
i think the AoC ruleset is a nice option to have.
please don't ruin it for others.
which is intended just not realy top be put in game yet, i think i heard it be coming to next weekend test somewhere though