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We need streamer free servers

Flashfirez23Flashfirez23 Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
edited November 14 in General Discussion
Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

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  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    I personally very much dislike the idea of people having high influence in the game who - other than everyone else in the game - will make money depending on how "entertaining" their ingame decisions are to a third party audience who has basically no input costs for influencing the game/the server (kinda sounds like a RMT when donation money to players of a guild decide what these guilds do ingame)

    Therefore I would also really like to have a server where everyone just pays their subscription fee and plays the game because they enjoy gaming and not because they can sell something from the game to others.
    I am however how many people actually share this sentiment. I would hope it would be enough for one "private" server and that Intrepid has enough understanding for this "oldschool" sentiment and capacities on the technical side to enable such a thing.
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  • SaabynatorSaabynator Member
    Flashfirez23 wrote: »
    Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

    I dont think they can really stop people from moving servers og starting somewhere, npr should they. But I get your pointe.
  • VeeshanVeeshan Member, Alpha Two
    edited November 14
    they should just add a tag on a server after the 20th dec for phase 2 lable streamer server and try and push the streamer onto the one serverto play with eachother :p they dont have too but tbh i kinda wanna see the stream battle royal over one server :p would be amusing to see
  • Flashfirez23Flashfirez23 Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited November 14
    Saabynator wrote: »
    Flashfirez23 wrote: »
    Many people don’t want to play on servers with streamers. The whole Asmongold incident is a great example of why. I think there should be some servers that ban streamers so that players who don’t like the negatives that streamers can bring to the game don’t have to deal with them. I think this is the best way to make everyone happy.

    I dont think they can really stop people from moving servers og starting somewhere, npr should they. But I get your pointe.

    If they make it clear that anyone who streams on the servers that don’t allow streamers on the them will have their character deleted or moved off the server. I’m sure streamers will behave and play on the servers that are for streamers.
  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    For clarity, does this also apply to Content Creators that take video and then edit it later?

    Like, is it just 'getting popularity by creating content and getting an audience through that content' that's an issue?

    This is a serious question for me because it would also apply to really good RP-ers and certain big guilds, even if they don't actually stream and sometimes even if they don't create video content.

    If by some miracle a person was able to recruit an Army in Ashes purely by 'writing good Node Lore', is that ok? Is it ok if they 'didn't start out with an audience already'? And if having an audience already is a problem, how big is the audience allowed to be?

    If the issue is with just streaming specifically, you can just ignore the followup questions.
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  • akabearakabear Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    In Ashes of Creation, guilds aiming for a competitive edge in PvP or exclusive access to open-world bosses may indeed discourage streaming during high-stakes events. This is because streaming can reveal critical tactics, movements, and strategy discussions, potentially undermining a guild's positioning and plans, especially if rival groups are watching.

    As a result, streaming may become less common during pivotal moments, with players possibly limiting broadcasts to less sensitive content to preserve their competitive advantage. Therefore, we could expect fewer long-term streamers focusing on significant parts of the game, with more controlled or edited content shared after the fact, allowing players to showcase their achievements without compromising ongoing strategies.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Streamers are fine, they are a net benefit Ashes. There’s just going to be a persistent risk for those streamers to be pestered.

    I’d rather the community work this out instead of the devs regulating it.
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  • DeeSavDeeSav Member, Alpha Two
    edited 3:55AM
    Just do a little research before selecting a server. Most of the content creators openly tell everyone which servers they plan to play on. They also are more likely to join the same servers as other creators because its free drama and content all around.
  • ApokApok Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    you know you can ignore these people and the ones following them around right?
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    Apok wrote: »
    you know you can ignore these people and the ones following them around right?

    In a game like Ashes, you really can't.
  • Uncommon SenseUncommon Sense Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Just label a number of servers recommended for steamers...Its not mandatory but it'll at least draw enough attention to them.

    Just like labeling a server for RP...

    Streamer Clout chasing will take care of the rest. Nobody who streams wants to miss out on being part of the new drama

    At some point the population will know who streams and who doesn't.

  • LaetitianLaetitian Member
    edited 7:14AM
    https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/62470/will-streamers-take-over-our-servers/p3
    2-to-zero- week-old discussion for context. Most of the questions have already been answered, o raddressed/discussed there. Can't really bring myself to summarise it for you, if you can't bring yourself to search it, tbh.
    Point is, it's worth browsing through, and should probably have been discussed there, or at least referenced here.
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  • Jassim SalamJassim Salam Member
    Stream sniping will be an issue mainly for the streamers and not so much for the rest of the community, as the nature of the game is in such a way that the game is heavily open world non-consensual PvP focused.

    Eve Online is the best example for that. You won't see much streamers for that game, and even if you do, they put at least a 30 minutes broadcast delay to avoid stream sniping (if it is worth stream sniping them).

    Trust me when I say this, Ashes of Creation is just another Eve Online, except AoC is medieval fantasy themed and EO is space fantasy themed. The game base will be extremely niche, only PvP tolerating gamers will play it, the game needs serious commitment, not solo friendly, and so on.

    Creating a streamer free server is a futile attempt to avoid streamer harassment. Instead, let the community figure out a way on its own to solve this.
  • BlipBlip Member, Alpha Two
    edited 9:47AM
    DeeSav wrote: »
    Just do a little research before selecting a server. Most of the content creators openly tell everyone which servers they plan to play on. They also are more likely to join the same servers as other creators because its free drama and content all around.

    Why do i need to do research just tag a server streamers and done.
    Apok wrote: »
    you know you can ignore these people and the ones following them around right?

    You cant tough thats the thing just look at the server they took on US everything is controlled by streamers or guilds streamers are in.

    I dont want to be a part of a realm that is managed for views.
  • VeeshanVeeshan Member, Alpha Two
    edited 2:18PM
    Uncommon Sense wrote: »
    Just label a number of servers recommended for steamers...Its not mandatory but it'll at least draw enough attention to them.

    Just like labeling a server for RP...

    Streamer Clout chasing will take care of the rest. Nobody who streams wants to miss out on being part of the new drama

    At some point the population will know who streams and who doesn't.

    thats what ill do i reckon it work well for marketing too and easier to police people greifing streamers too since there all in one space
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