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Phase I of Alpha Two testing will occur on weekends. Each weekend is scheduled to start on Fridays at 10 AM PT and end on Sundays at 10 PM PT. Find out more here.
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Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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If this were true then those same people would not come back in December and would long have abandoned the PTR. Also this is not a hiccup or a bump in the road, this is more akin the wheels coming off the caravan and the canopy is on fire.
Its not every hick-up. This would be 1 substantial instance in phase 1. Seems pretty good to me, considering they even warned us of the possibility of wipes throughout testing ahead of time.
Talk to the A1 testers. Every wipe they lost more and more testers. Say that does not matter. But it does to IS. They said themselves, their goal is to not wipe. I stand by their sentiment and agree with it wholeheartedly. If they need to that's their call.
this, exactly this - is one of my biggest issues. Suddenly springing forth from the stone age on the 10th day en masse on resna. Sounds like we werent the only server to suddenly hit an enlightment period.
May aswell let it ride till the 20th and see what testing data comeso ut of it than reset the progress for 12 playable days
As we are at the 1/2 way point for this phase, using your same logic, a wipe would only remove the progress of 12 playable days. Less actually because of the DDoS attacks.
A clean slate would at least let us see how all the updates would impact the leveling curve, including the new starter experience updates.
you are looking the things only from 1 points. Do you know how long take for the people test the build and understand what are good and what no?!?! for example like is now the city and crafting station has no meaning to stay because now we have some apprendice workbench and we can craft lvl 10 items that are most of them usell because most of the people are lvl 20/25. But we need also to test what is not good and must be change or correct with more high build , if they make while we can't test more the build in city because i take 3 week to start to make the new build. More things we test better is for the test after the wipe of 20. I think the big reason they will wipe the 20 is because the strucure of the pg change with the new features they will release.
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The complaint is that people have been duping the gold and legendary materials and I have seen screenshots of inventories full of these materials so legendary lvl 10 gear is possible.
As far as minimizing the impact of entire parties and/or guilds running around with level 10 gear, here is a pic that someone posted in the Resna channel when someone made fun of the threat of low level duped gear:
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i put maybe level 10 cause it depends on the server like rezna for example had 0 crafting benches to even make apprentice tools let along hit a legendary proc on a harvest until the very last day of this weekend.
I know other server are ahead however but it depended on ur server wether or not u could have it.
Tbh if anything they should just add a vendor that sells T1/T2 legendary resources and glint for remaning testing phase this balances out the duping issue between player base and testing can continue since wiping would cause alot of people to be like welp ill just take a break and wait for the 20th of december
Doing this would allow people to test our higher teir gameplay aswell as crafting systems easier. You will probaly increase the amount of people willing to go corrupt too though however would test the pvp system more too
I wasn't referencing the level 10 as much as the 'no big deal' attached to it. Just wanted to show the difference a lvl 10 legendary can make.
Resna had guilds hoarding and duplicating materials and gold and intentionally not building to prevent rival guilds from access to gear until they were ready so you saw things go up quickly last weekend. I saw pictures of entire inventories of legendary materials so even with just one acquired, when you encourage your entire guild to dupe all weekend before a fix is implemented, those legendary materials can build up quickly. 😲
its alpha bud. man up and play, or dont. I have never duped in any game, or cheated, and i dont care. I will still kill those kids that need to cheat to get an advantage. Here we have the victimhood mentality rearing its ugly head again. I guess kids with poor parents should quit at life too, since they dont have the same advantages. It is a game. It is for fun. Alpha is for testing bugs, LIKE DUPING, so they wont work when game goes live.
Cant haord lvl 10 materials if u dont build the bench to make the tool to harvest them, they have legendary lvl 1 mats but u need lvl 10 resources to make something relevant (outside of caravans which seem to be heavy T1 mats still in alot of it) weapons and armor need T2 or T3 mats which couldnt be aquired without the bench to make a tool which didnt exsist till the end of the weekend test and even then they needed to proc a good quality drop to dupe it, i think the only bench that got up in time pretty much was the alchemy which i think give sickle, stone work was being built but not sure if it finished in time and i think lumber was started but not completed before server down
Why are you concerned about this? This is an alpha test. Nobody is "behind' on anything when the servers will get wiped on Dec 20th anyways. Try and enjoy the test, report bugs, and be less concerned that "John" is ahead because of a dupe on network test of an alpha test.
Tainted Data; hmmm not sure about that. The taint is supposed to be a red flag caught by the Devs extensive monitoring tools it bragged about in at least 1 video. So that in itself is a "test". But I also get the point you're making as well.
Duping in general: At some point soon it will become a bannable offense /Shrug and good
On Resna myself and it is a cluster for getting anything done to progress nodes, etc. As far as the efficiency of the nodes/Mayors go.... I think the current data Resna is showing is quite a bit and pretty useful especially when compared to servers that came up 2 weeks later.
Again, the ones that had prior game knowledge are the same ones in the MEGA guilds - again fine, we will all catch up sooner or later on the knowledge and Guirilla warfare is nothing new. I just want to be able to slowly catch up on that knowledge and "Test" crafting which is right now far from probable due do to the reasons above.
Not sure how they acquired the legendary materials for duping, just saying I saw pictures of the duped inventories.
I know there is a slight chance for legendary materials to drop from both mobs and harvesting and we have seen this.
According to AoC wiki, legendary equipment is only supposed to be dropped by legendary world bosses and yet, I saw a piece drop from a regular higher level mob. With this being alpha, not even going to begin to guess how materials were acquired for the duping, only that I have seen evidence of it happening so I hope that the devs do follow through and pull the logs and data and handle the people abusing this.
I'd be in favor for a wipe this weekend.
More than I was requesting but totally good with this suggestion as well. The last game I seriously "Tested/Played" was Crowfall and this was done several times for "testing" purposes although if memory serves it was on the PTR that everyone had access to. Being we have a scheduled wipe coming I see no reason not to implement.
i still dont understand your broken english.
regardless - AOC wont be ready for release for 2-3 years. test building has LOTS OF TIME, now isnt the time for that. cringe trying to be "On TOP" in a alpha stage. Cringe for "Min/Max" during alpha.
there is PLENTY of time to test. Phase 1 = SERVER STABILITY. Wipe and put all the players back into Lionhold and make sure we dont crash it, it's playable, so when Dec 20th come, the population will be doubled and the server is ready for it.
Exploiting in test is issue enough that Steven has warned people not to take advantage of exploits and we were informed that logs and data would be looked at and players doing bad things with these exploits could face a suspension or ban. Exploiting IS an issue in test and AoC is not the only game that will suspend or ban for it.
Do I think the servers should be wiped with less than a month to go before a wipe, no this alpha is focused on stability and performance, but exploiting bugs during test IS an issue and should be addressed so please stop trying to minimize it into a whine fest.
If this is the kind of format Alpha 1 testers like you use for feedback posts on the PTR, we're completely doomed. Do people not read over the stuff they're writing these days? Insanity.
Just look at this... The dupers didn’t even bother to enchant this monster. That’s how overpowered it already is.
Imagine getting one-shot by this thing while trying to do literally anything this weekend and thinking: "Well, at least they didn’t wipe the server."
I would rather know I am getting one-shot by an honest man.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
Which means they want the servers to have a lot of users online all the time.
Both paths kind of suck, which one makes less people stop logging on.
Wiping? Or letting dozens of players with full legendary kit (possibly also enchanted since its only level 10) wreck the balance and fun for hundreds of others.
Kind of hard to tell which way is best. A wipe wont stop me from testing, it will just change my focus on what I try out in the last four weeks.
OK so there was a DUPE great we found it...better now than later. If the Exploiters are put on Notice than also great it means Intrepid a taking this issue seriously.
I say just roll with the over baked economy untill the wipe and hope no more dupes are found early/at all
We're on the same server, it takes 2 brain cells to be "sure" about the tainted data. We he 0 lvl 10 crafting stations. Suddenly mid weekend we get people offering to buy stuff for 200G in global, shortly after things start springing up all over the nodes. I think it's VERY clear that any data on difficulty getting stations online has been brutally tainted. Had it not been for duping, our server would still be in the stone age. instead well be trying to play catch up with people locking down grind spots with weapons that have nearly 4 times the power of our lvl 10 green scraps we get along the way to 20. Those players will also have very little to do, as their gear is already ridiculous, no need to grind for more - so they'll come gank everyone else who didn't exploit early and exploit often.