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[FOCUSED FEEDBACK] GAMEPLAY TEST - Thursday, December 19, 2024

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  • adamagadamag Member, Alpha Two
    Befallen forge is a visually very impressive dungeon. i really liked the overall feel of the dungeon, the environmental hazards and puzzles were great. the bridge raising posed some problems, but i imagine its a lot easier to get it to work without 60 people all clicking every button at once.

    the main big issue i had was visual clarity. with so many people using flashy effects on top of each other it was very difficult to see enemy attacks, or even recognize ally abilities.

    one other complaint is the enemy respawn time. it is way too short. i had several situations where a mob respawned on top of me while the group was still clearing out the room. enemy density and variety felt good.
  • KiwiCaramonKiwiCaramon Member, Alpha Two
    Markets a great idea but when too many people there couldt buy from the NPC
    Freeholds pity all gone by the time I found 1
    New dungeon looks like a lot of fun and tough
  • DevlsoneDevlsone Member, Alpha Two
    I see treasure maps are already mentioned but as per my experience. Seems that the given maps could only click 1 which added a quest with markers/circles. But these circles something like 10 all clumped together and even after searching the whole place while trying to use the supplied tools (which were unclickable) didn't find or see anything related to the unclickable maps hint. As too freeholds, I suggest if its not already planned they need to be instance based so multiple people can have 1 in the same place. Maybe set a limit if its to be a VIP/worked hella hard, type thing. Also maybe add citizenship and node reputation to requirements. Personally my opinion I don't see the point of having a skin in the packs if they wont be available to everyone due to limited supply or other random who knows reason...
  • EshantiEshanti Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    General feedback for testing:

    I feel like the boosting could be a bit more organized / planned. Hours wait line in Joeva to then hear its only for people going to dungeon and get your gear there. It really took away from me testing the freehold.

    I managed to purchase one, but then after getting gear and running the dungeon real quick to see what its like, die to a bugged out bridge, then went for the freehold stuff.

    I tried farming droppings, but took to long. Eventually people got back to me in chat and handed me some so i could craft the balls, just for server to go down as i reached my freehold. :(

    Freehold feedback:

    I managed to purchase one, cause we had figured out before hand you had to talk to the well. I saw a lot of frustrated people who didn't know and missed out. Not sure if the purchase way is going to stay the same, but with everyone now being put on one server, i can see the zerg guilds owning every single one of them. From what i understood the mayor was supposed to put them to auction, hope it will be that way in the coming phase. Planting things i can't comment on. Would have been useful if gm's also handed out some of the balls to the players owning freeholds, since it was rough trying to acquire those through in game means in such a short time. Which makes me curious as to the yield of those and if its worth it.
    Also monsters should not be spawning on the freeholds. :)

    Forgotton Forge:

    The place looks cool, but the bridge at the bottom is really buggy. For some people it was active, for others it was not. But when trying to run across you still died due to lava burns. Mobs seemed to be decent hp sponges though, was kind of hard to judge if its enough to go in with just one party or you need an actual raid.

  • AmarAmar Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Got in late so just rode out and tested the player stores. They worked pretty smoothly for me buying and selling lists. I know it's just starting but for sure an early patch is to get search by item or materials in the system. To at a minimum direct you to the shops that have what you want. Better if it pulls up the listing of all the items no matter who has them so prices can be compared. That said I'll take it as it is for now since it's a huge bonus to always doing an in person trade... Thank you see you Friday.

    Amar
  • AariciaAaricia Member, Alpha Two
    Struggles with Ashes of Creation’s Current Housing System and Solutions Through an Instanced Model

    I was unable to test the Freehold housing system as all houses had been claimed by the time I figured out that one must talk to the well in order to purchase the plot. I will instead be speaking about the housing system as I have observed it via the Alpha Two Freehold Update and read on the Wiki. As someone who owns Freehold building skins, I have feelings about the current system as it has been presented thus far.

    The Freehold housing system in Ashes of Creation is ambitious, offering deep customization and resource integration. However, its current implementation faces several challenges that may hinder accessibility, player satisfaction, and long-term viability. Transitioning to an instanced housing model could address these struggles while preserving the system’s core philosophy of meaningful player choice.

    Struggles with the Current Freehold System

    Land Scarcity and Competition
    • Freehold plots are tied to node progression and limited land availability. As nodes grow and fill, securing desirable land becomes increasingly difficult, alienating latecomers or casual players. This scarcity creates unnecessary competition that benefits only a subset of the playerbase.

    High Risk of Loss
    • Freeholds are vulnerable to node de-leveling and PvP activity, leading to potential loss of significant player investments. This creates a risk-heavy system that discourages players from fully engaging with housing, especially those with limited time to defend their assets.

    Complexity and Upkeep
    • Managing Freeholds requires balancing farming, crafting, and resource upkeep, which can feel overwhelming. Players not invested in these systems may find the mechanics burdensome and disconnected from their primary gameplay goals.

    Isolation from Core Gameplay
    • Freeholds are geographically separated from central hubs, reducing opportunities for community interaction, trade, and integration into the game’s larger social systems. This isolation risks making the housing system feel peripheral rather than central to the AoC experience.

    Limited Scalability
    • The reliance on physical land ties the Freehold system to finite node space, making it less adaptable to future updates or player growth. This could lead to stagnation as the game evolves.

    Transitioning to an instanced housing model could address these challenges while preserving the meaningful player choice AoC is wanting to be known for. Instanced housing would guarantee access for all players, lower risks tied to node de-leveling, and simplify management while fostering social interaction through shared neighborhoods. It would also provide scalability for future content and allow for physical entrances in the world, retaining immersion while ensuring accessibility and inclusivity for all playstyles.

    For those that want to argue about AoC not being for "RP'ing Andys" or whatever:
    To counter the argument that Ashes of Creation is a niche game not intended for casual players, please consider the following points as to why the current Freehold system might still alienate a significant portion of its target audience—regardless of their commitment level—and how addressing these issues would benefit all players, even those who are heavily invested in the game:

    1. Inclusivity Enhances Player Retention
    • Counterpoint: Even within a niche game, retaining a diverse playerbase is critical to long-term success. Hardcore players may drive initial interest, but casual players or those less focused on specific mechanics (e.g., crafting) contribute to the vibrancy of the game’s economy, social interactions, and community-building.
    • Position: By making Freeholds more accessible and rewarding for a broader audience, AoC ensures a steady influx of players who can support the game's ecosystem, even if they do not fully engage with every system.
    2. Complexity Doesn't Equal Depth
    • Counterpoint: Niche MMOs are often praised for their depth and complexity, but excessive micromanagement can alienate players who appreciate layered systems without the tedium of overwhelming mechanics.
    • Position: Simplifying aspects of the Freehold system—such as reducing maintenance requirements or providing scalable housing options—would not dilute the complexity but would instead make it more approachable. Depth should feel engaging, not burdensome.
    3. Player Freedom and Agency
    • Counterpoint: A niche game like AoC thrives on player agency. However, the current Freehold system imposes barriers (e.g., node dependency, land scarcity, and PvP risk) that may limit this freedom, even for committed players.
    • Position: Improving the Freehold system by addressing its restrictive elements (e.g., allowing for more flexible placement or reducing node-dependent risk) enhances player agency and aligns with the game’s core philosophy of choice and consequence.
    4. The Hardcore vs. Casual Dichotomy Is Oversimplified
    • Counterpoint: Many players do not fall neatly into "hardcore" or "casual" categories. Instead, they have fluctuating play schedules and varying degrees of interest in different gameplay systems.
    • Position: A flexible Freehold system that accommodates different levels of engagement allows players to adapt their investment to their available time or interests. For example, hardcore players could still fully optimize their Freeholds, while casual players could enjoy smaller-scale benefits without feeling excluded.
    5. Appealing to Niche and Mainstream Audiences
    • Counterpoint: While AoC aims to be a niche game, it must still attract a critical mass of players to sustain its ambitious development goals and server-based systems. Overly exclusive mechanics risk shrinking its player pool and harming the game’s longevity.
    • Position: Balancing the Freehold system to be both rewarding for dedicated players and accessible to less-invested players strengthens the game’s appeal across a wider audience. This ensures the game can thrive financially and maintain healthy server populations.
    6. Risk of Alienating Hardcore Players
    • Counterpoint: Hardcore players may argue that simplifying systems dilutes the experience for them.
    • Position: Refinements to the Freehold system do not need to compromise its complexity or appeal to hardcore players. Instead, they can enhance the experience by reducing unnecessary frustrations (e.g., excessive land competition or punitive loss mechanics) and making Freeholds a more stable and enjoyable investment, even for the most dedicated players.

    Conclusion: Enhancing Accessibility Is Not About Catering to Casuals
    The argument is not about diluting AoC’s niche appeal but about creating systems that feel rewarding and engaging for all players. By addressing the current limitations of the Freehold system, AoC can strengthen its player experience and maintain its unique identity without alienating casual players or hardcore fans. A robust housing system that caters to varying levels of commitment ultimately supports the game’s longevity, economy, and community—benefiting everyone involved.

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  • zintairzintair Member, Alpha Two
    Couldn’t stay logged in more than 5 minutes without crashing. Was not able to test any of the above.
  • xenith_terrekxenith_terrek Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited December 20
    Verran Adventurers!

    Please test the following, and provide feedback on your experience!

    High Prior /BUG Reporting - If you experience anything with the following:
    • Resurrection
    • Deploying or traversing with caravans
    • Processing your caravan goods upon arrival

    Befallen Forge - Explore the dungeon!
    • Do loot drops feel fair for the amount of effort you have put in?
    • What was your experience with environmental hazards?
    • Does the difficulty, time-to-kill, and density of mobs seem appropriate for the area?

    Treasure Maps - Unlock new loot! Putting a hold on this one, due to issue reports
    • If you received a completed map item, what did you think about the rewards you found when you excavated the map?
    • Were you able to loot chests more than once?


    Marketplace Manager - Test the basic functionality in any level 3 Node!
    • Was registering and buying items from other players intuitive, or did you encounter any issues?

    Freeholds - Purchase Freeholds and test planting Seeds
    • Was purchasing a Freehold and planting things there intuitive, or did you encounter any issues?

    Thanks again for all your help as we prepare for Alpha Two Phase II in just one more day!


    Befallen Forge - Explore the dungeon!

    Do loot drops feel fair for the amount of effort you have put in?

    I saw one green item drop. Ran the dungeon a few times.

    What was your experience with environmental hazards?

    Felt good. Would like to see more. Like traps you have to navigate.

    Does the difficulty, time-to-kill, and density of mobs seem appropriate for the area?

    Yes, if the drops were dial up 10x. Currently, no--to high.
  • NexichNexich Member, Alpha Two
    edited December 20
    It was late yesterday, so I'm writing today.
    The Freehold owner is in the chat. I was able to get the droppings and plant the Flax and Blueberry. I didn't experience any special problems. It is not clear just how long these resources will grow. It would be convenient to have some kind of hint. (And a chair in the house to sit on)
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