Exotic weapons: What would you like to see?

Seeing as we were told that exotic weapons will be in the game (with many using the same style as mundane ones while others requiring more work such as whips), I figure it might be fun to get ideas from players as to what they want to see.

Personally I enjoy exotic weapons far more than regular mundane ones. Every game has swords, maces, and axes, but we're suppose to be heroes and heroes often have unique and cool weapons as often as standard ones.

So my question is, what types of weapons would you want to see?

I'd like to see Scythes, Whips, War Fans, and Falcatas. I know Falcatas are just A type of sword, but still!

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Azryil

I'm all for exotic weapons in a fantasy game so long as they stay away from Si-Fi and modernish weapons(gatling gun)

Nagash

arzosah wrote: »

I'm all for exotic weapons in a fantasy game so long as they stay away from Si-Fi and modernish weapons(gatling gun)

so no rattling guns?

Shoklen

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

Nagash

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

Azryil

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

I believe they should be in the MMO, I just hope that you can supply them with different types of potions as ammo to change their effect rather than just be the grenade launcher they are in APOC.

Nagash

arzosah wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

I believe they should be in the MMO, I just hope that you can supply them with different types of potions as ammo to change their effect rather than just be the grenade launcher they are in APOC.

I would like that as well. an ice potion freezes foes and a hex potion reduces stats

Damokles

nagash wrote: »

arzosah wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

I believe they should be in the MMO, I just hope that you can supply them with different types of potions as ammo to change their effect rather than just be the grenade launcher they are in APOC.

I would like that as well. an ice potion freezes foes and a hex potion reduces stats

They could implement, that alchemists could make attachments for the potion launcher. (IS said that ammunition wont be a thing after all)

WizardTim

damokles wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

arzosah wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

I believe they should be in the MMO, I just hope that you can supply them with different types of potions as ammo to change their effect rather than just be the grenade launcher they are in APOC.

I would like that as well. an ice potion freezes foes and a hex potion reduces stats

They could implement, that alchemists could make attachments for the potion launcher. (IS said that ammunition wont be a thing after all)

Ugh, ammunition needs to be a thing though.

It's one of the major advantages ranged weaponry had, modifying the ammunition used. Also helped balance out ranged weaponry's advantage of, well, range.

Kovrm

Wait... There's no selection of ammo the be changed out in bows/xbows to fit the situation at hand?! That's a bummer for sure. Would have been fun to craft the different types.

Anvil

Bastard Swords (Hand and a Half), Katanas, Actual Greatswords,(Not just 2 handed swords), Possibly some of the more Exotic and Obscure (I.E. "The Sky Sword" from "The Sword and The Sorcerer" 3 Blades one Sword!!!

caedwyn

skreacher wrote: »

Can i dual wield shields? Nothing like following up a shield slam... well with another shield slam!

caedwyn

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

i hope not -_-
i really hate pistols and rifles and other types of guns in a fantasy game

Nagash

caedwyn wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

i hope not -_-
i really hate pistols and rifles and other types of guns in a fantasy game

so did steven and yet we have the potion launcher

WizardTim

nagash wrote: »

caedwyn wrote: »

nagash wrote: »

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

well they keep saying everything will be ported over to the MMO so I would say yes

i hope not -_-
i really hate pistols and rifles and other types of guns in a fantasy game

so did steven and yet we have the potion launcher

I'd question whether or not that actually applies to the potion launcher, honestly.

Unlike gunpowder, a potion launcher is relatively low tech. Basically just a water balloon launcher. And you can bet weapon designers would have designed such a device if they had concoctions like alchemist fire. The greeks had greek fire which utilized flamethrowers after all, so they weren't stupid when it came to designing effective delivery methods for weaponry.

However, I can see the weapons being something of a low end damage dealer, doing splash but little direct damage, having more utility for support potential (launching healing potions at allies for example).

I'd be more curious about alchemical arrows/bolts, things that splash glue or alchemist fire onto the target. There's a huge potential for versatility with bows and crossbows because of ammunition, and denying that (or rather, making it exclusive skills for rangers) kinda kills the fun of using those weapons.

So, I had a thought (back to main topic) about specialized weapons. Bards using stylish weapons like bladed/chained scarfs and war fans for example. I suspect that weapons will have particular archetypes that they are best for, but I don't believe players should be hard limited to specific weapons for specific archetypes.

I want to see Mages wielding polearms as staves for example, or wielding swords. I get that you might want mages wielding books/globes/staves to have different benefits but I'd rather AoC stepped AWAY from the generic stereotyping of weapon/class combinations and instead allow archetypes to wield any weapon and obtain some benefits for wielding that weapon, even if it's not absolutely optimal for that archetype.

I detest the path MMO developers have taken lately, where weapons/armor is a clear sign of what class any given player is. Deceit and subterfuge are major aspects of fights/battles/and warfare, and denying the players the ability to deceive opponents makes PvP boring AF IMO.

Damokles

All the talk about gunpowder weapons and potion launchers etc. Here I am, hoping for a catapult to be able to actually throw a player (aka. Me).
Imagine it guys, late at night, a squad of suicide rogues ready themselves for the fight of their lifes. Each climbs atop a catapult and gets thrown over the enemy walls, only 2 survive the fall, one dies on the way to the castle doors and the last one activates the opening mechanism right before he dies.
THATS HOW HEROES ARE BORN!

Dygz

shoklen wrote: »

Are the potion guns (sorry launchers) only for Apoc, or will they be in the AoC as well...

arzosah wrote: »

I believe they should be in the MMO, I just hope that you can supply them with different types of potions as ammo to change their effect rather than just be the grenade launcher they are in APOC.

nagash wrote: »

I would like that as well. an ice potion freezes foes and a hex potion reduces stats

You need an acid potion to quickly remove all that nasty flesh.

WizardTim

damokles wrote: »

All the talk about gunpowder weapons and potion launchers etc. Here I am, hoping for a catapult to be able to actually throw a player (aka. Me).
Imagine it guys, late at night, a squad of suicide rogues ready themselves for the fight of their lifes. Each climbs atop a catapult and gets thrown over the enemy walls, only 2 survive the fall, one dies on the way to the castle doors and the last one activates the opening mechanism right before he dies.
THATS HOW HEROES ARE BORN!

Meh, hate to break it to ya bu~t catapults (real ones), even trebuchets, only hurled rocks that weighed about 20-40lbs. None ever even approached full grown human weight. Stories of launching dead animals over walls were more likely dead chickens or cow PARTS, not cows. And, frankly, unless it was truly rotten meat (which would endanger the soldiers launching it... hygiene was not super famous back then), you were just feeding the besieged.

It takes modern materials to actually store the necessary energy to hurl a 150+ lb object a significant distance.

Besides, imparting that kind of energy on a human would almost certainly result in death on impact. It's the exact same energy as imparted on the human by that 40lb rock being flung 600 yards into their chest. It hurts, is what I'm saying.

Damokles

wolfwood82 wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

All the talk about gunpowder weapons and potion launchers etc. Here I am, hoping for a catapult to be able to actually throw a player (aka. Me).
Imagine it guys, late at night, a squad of suicide rogues ready themselves for the fight of their lifes. Each climbs atop a catapult and gets thrown over the enemy walls, only 2 survive the fall, one dies on the way to the castle doors and the last one activates the opening mechanism right before he dies.
THATS HOW HEROES ARE BORN!

Meh, hate to break it to ya bu~t catapults (real ones), even trebuchets, only hurled rocks that weighed about 20-40lbs. None ever even approached full grown human weight.

It takes modern materials to actually store the necessary energy to hurl a 150+ lb object a significant distance.

Besides, imparting that kind of energy on a human would almost certainly result in death on impact. It's the exact same energy as imparted on the human by that 40lb rock being flung 600 yards into their chest. It hurts, is what I'm saying.

You see, that may be true in our world... BUT MAGIC M*F*CKER!

WizardTim

damokles wrote: »

wolfwood82 wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

All the talk about gunpowder weapons and potion launchers etc. Here I am, hoping for a catapult to be able to actually throw a player (aka. Me).
Imagine it guys, late at night, a squad of suicide rogues ready themselves for the fight of their lifes. Each climbs atop a catapult and gets thrown over the enemy walls, only 2 survive the fall, one dies on the way to the castle doors and the last one activates the opening mechanism right before he dies.
THATS HOW HEROES ARE BORN!

Meh, hate to break it to ya bu~t catapults (real ones), even trebuchets, only hurled rocks that weighed about 20-40lbs. None ever even approached full grown human weight.

It takes modern materials to actually store the necessary energy to hurl a 150+ lb object a significant distance.

Besides, imparting that kind of energy on a human would almost certainly result in death on impact. It's the exact same energy as imparted on the human by that 40lb rock being flung 600 yards into their chest. It hurts, is what I'm saying.

You see, that may be true in our world... BUT MAGIC M*F*CKER!

Magic must defeat magic!

Yeah I get magic, but at the same time wouldn't said magic (which would have to be purpose designed for this specific thing) also not keep the launched people alive?

The first rule of warfare is that all rules of warfare are the first rule of warfare. So, the first rule of warfare is you never use a weapon as likely to kill the enemy as your own troops.

Damokles

wolfwood82 wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

wolfwood82 wrote: »

damokles wrote: »

All the talk about gunpowder weapons and potion launchers etc. Here I am, hoping for a catapult to be able to actually throw a player (aka. Me).
Imagine it guys, late at night, a squad of suicide rogues ready themselves for the fight of their lifes. Each climbs atop a catapult and gets thrown over the enemy walls, only 2 survive the fall, one dies on the way to the castle doors and the last one activates the opening mechanism right before he dies.
THATS HOW HEROES ARE BORN!

Meh, hate to break it to ya bu~t catapults (real ones), even trebuchets, only hurled rocks that weighed about 20-40lbs. None ever even approached full grown human weight.

It takes modern materials to actually store the necessary energy to hurl a 150+ lb object a significant distance.

Besides, imparting that kind of energy on a human would almost certainly result in death on impact. It's the exact same energy as imparted on the human by that 40lb rock being flung 600 yards into their chest. It hurts, is what I'm saying.

You see, that may be true in our world... BUT MAGIC M*F*CKER!

Magic must defeat magic!

Yeah I get magic, but at the same time wouldn't said magic (which would have to be purpose designed for this specific thing) also not keep the launched people alive?

The first rule of warfare is that all rules of warfare are the first rule of warfare. So, the first rule of warfare is you never use a weapon as likely to kill the enemy as your own troops.

We do have magic that negates fall damage, we have magic spells that let peoplehover in the air. I see no reason why we should not be able to strengthen the catapults and throw people over castle walls.

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