Considering Lifetime Sub....is it worth it?

I bought into this game in July of 2017. I love a lot of items about this game.
I am trying to decide if the 400.00 extra buyin would be worth it.

If the game is 15/month, = 180 a year = 2.2 years of playing to get money back. I am not concerned about the play time, i am more concerned about shop items, items that are exclusive being sold to everyone. etc.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks

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Lalli

codewarlock wrote: »

I think most sub games that end up switching to F2P still carry a sort of monthly "Elite" status package which usually includes free cosmetics, XP boosts, free mico-currency, extra slots, special pets/mounts, etc.

I assume in this instance, we would get elite or VIP status for the life of the game. Given that the game itself is free, I wouldn't anticipate a F2P switch for quite a long time, if at all

Well it would most likely be cosmetics/micro currency to buy cosmetics. I don't think it will ever have to switch to F2P. On a side note I don't understand why many people are against sub games in general but I like them. Something like runescape (Old School) does it right in my opinion.

WarlockofCode

Lalli wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

I think most sub games that end up switching to F2P still carry a sort of monthly "Elite" status package which usually includes free cosmetics, XP boosts, free mico-currency, extra slots, special pets/mounts, etc.

I assume in this instance, we would get elite or VIP status for the life of the game. Given that the game itself is free, I wouldn't anticipate a F2P switch for quite a long time, if at all

Well it would most likely be cosmetics/micro currency to buy cosmetics. I don't think it will ever have to switch to F2P. On a side note I don't understand why many people are against sub games in general but I like them. Something like runescape (Old School) does it right in my opinion.

Same here! Subs + cosmetic options = gravy.

Noaani

codewarlock wrote: »

Lalli wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

I think most sub games that end up switching to F2P still carry a sort of monthly "Elite" status package which usually includes free cosmetics, XP boosts, free mico-currency, extra slots, special pets/mounts, etc.

I assume in this instance, we would get elite or VIP status for the life of the game. Given that the game itself is free, I wouldn't anticipate a F2P switch for quite a long time, if at all

Well it would most likely be cosmetics/micro currency to buy cosmetics. I don't think it will ever have to switch to F2P. On a side note I don't understand why many people are against sub games in general but I like them. Something like runescape (Old School) does it right in my opinion.

Same here! Subs + cosmetic options = gravy.

Cosmetic options will provide less income than a box price on the game would, especially if that box price applied to expansion content as well.

If any two combinations were to "= gravy" it would be box price + sub, not sub + cosmetics.

Lalli

noaani wrote: »

Cosmetic options will provide less income than a box price on the game would, especially if that box price applied to expansion content as well.

If any two combinations were to "= gravy" it would be box price + sub, not sub + cosmetics.

I don't know if I agree with that. Depends on the box price I think. I'm not against either way though. If its a good game people will come.

Noaani

Lalli wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

Cosmetic options will provide less income than a box price on the game would, especially if that box price applied to expansion content as well.

If any two combinations were to "= gravy" it would be box price + sub, not sub + cosmetics.

I don't know if I agree with that. Depends on the box price I think. I'm not against either way though. If its a good game people will come.

The vast majority of players will never spend money on a cosmetic, yet the vast majority of players will pay to keep their game up to the latest expansion release.

Of those few that do spend money on cosmetics, a very small percent would spend more on them than they would spend on expansions, let alone enough people spending money on them to cover the people that spend nothing on them.

Once the game launches, I personally won't spend anything on cosmetics. Ashes will be the cheapest MMORPG I have ever played.

Lalli

I suppose you are right. It is confirmed though that there will be no box cost and no cost for expansions so I guess we will have to hope sub and cosmetics keep Intrepid well paid enough.

WarlockofCode

noaani wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

Lalli wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

I think most sub games that end up switching to F2P still carry a sort of monthly "Elite" status package which usually includes free cosmetics, XP boosts, free mico-currency, extra slots, special pets/mounts, etc.

I assume in this instance, we would get elite or VIP status for the life of the game. Given that the game itself is free, I wouldn't anticipate a F2P switch for quite a long time, if at all

Well it would most likely be cosmetics/micro currency to buy cosmetics. I don't think it will ever have to switch to F2P. On a side note I don't understand why many people are against sub games in general but I like them. Something like runescape (Old School) does it right in my opinion.

Same here! Subs + cosmetic options = gravy.

Cosmetic options will provide less income than a box price on the game would, especially if that box price applied to expansion content as well.

If any two combinations were to "= gravy" it would be box price + sub, not sub + cosmetics.

Hehehe, I more so meant it's gravy to me.

At the end of the day, I'm willing to shell out whatever the price if the experience is worth the while. I've played Runescape, Guild Wars (1&2), WoW, Rift, SWTOR, Terra, WIldstar--they've all had their own payment methods but I never found any of them unreasonable for the experience I enjoyed.

Noaani

codewarlock wrote: »

noaani wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

Lalli wrote: »

codewarlock wrote: »

I think most sub games that end up switching to F2P still carry a sort of monthly "Elite" status package which usually includes free cosmetics, XP boosts, free mico-currency, extra slots, special pets/mounts, etc.

I assume in this instance, we would get elite or VIP status for the life of the game. Given that the game itself is free, I wouldn't anticipate a F2P switch for quite a long time, if at all

Well it would most likely be cosmetics/micro currency to buy cosmetics. I don't think it will ever have to switch to F2P. On a side note I don't understand why many people are against sub games in general but I like them. Something like runescape (Old School) does it right in my opinion.

Same here! Subs + cosmetic options = gravy.

Cosmetic options will provide less income than a box price on the game would, especially if that box price applied to expansion content as well.

If any two combinations were to "= gravy" it would be box price + sub, not sub + cosmetics.

Hehehe, I more so meant it's gravy to me.

At the end of the day, I'm willing to shell out whatever the price if the experience is worth the while. I've played Runescape, Guild Wars (1&2), WoW, Rift, SWTOR, Terra, WIldstar--they've all had their own payment methods but I never found any of them unreasonable for the experience I enjoyed.

Blizzard paid you to play WoW?

Maybe it's just me, but that is the only way I would be able to consider that game reasonable value... even then, it would need to be a non-trivial amount.

insomnia

It all depends on if you will like the game or not. Different things for different people

OrcLuck

I don't know. I want the game to do well, and I think they're listening.

If I asked would I have wanted a life time sub on World of Warcraft for 500 I think my answer would be... I'd be willing to pay 1000, its kind of like....who knows, what the game will mean to you.

To me, its a game that fills a need, in a down trodden genre. I think having a life time sub to a game I helped contribute to the launch of, and had an impact in the design of, means more to me then if I bought one for another game.

That being said, I bought this tier exclusively for the life time sub and everything else is more chips n dip.

Nagash

OrcLuck wrote: »

I don't know. I want the game to do well, and I think they're listening.

If I asked would I have wanted a life time sub on World of Warcraft for 500 I think my answer would be... I'd be willing to pay 1000, its kind of like....who knows, what the game will mean to you.

To me, its a game that fills a need, in a down trodden genre. I think having a life time sub to a game I helped contribute to the launch of, and had an impact in the design of, means more to me then if I bought one for another game.

That being said, I bought this tier exclusively for the life time sub and everything else is more chips n dip.

that's the best way to think about it really

Preacher2

I also backed at the Brave of worlds pledge for the lifetime sub. Can't go wrong to play for free

However for some reason I do not have my tag?

Repkar

Considering I've played wow for 10 years, yep worth to me. I just kept putting a little away until I could afford a lifetime to this amazing game

Glory

I bought the lifetime sub pack and don't regret it.

Needless to say, the game isn't out yet. So it's still a gamble. Just be aware any investment you make at this point is for the sake of the game's success. We just hope we benefit from it's success.

Sterigo

Is it still possible to buy the lifetime sub?

Nagash

Sterigo wrote: »

Is it still possible to buy the lifetime sub?

sadly no, it was only available for people who back the game on Kickstarter/summer backers

Glory

Nagash wrote: »

Sterigo wrote: »

Is it still possible to buy the lifetime sub?

sadly no, it was only available for people who back the game on Kickstarter/summer backers

I was under the impression that people who choose lesser packages could still upgrade. Is that not an option anymore?

Undead Canuck

That is indeed an option. As long as you already have a Kickstarter pledge, you can still upgrade.
You cannot 'buy' it, you can only upgrade.

Nagash

glory wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

Sterigo wrote: »

Is it still possible to buy the lifetime sub?

sadly no, it was only available for people who back the game on Kickstarter/summer backers

I was under the impression that people who choose lesser packages could still upgrade. Is that not an option anymore?

That is right anyone who bought a pack from Kickstarter or the summer backer can still upgrade

Flashman

Masscarnage wrote: »

Anyone have any thoughts?

@Masscarnage I think it's very simple.

Given you don't know how the game will turn out and/or whether you will like it, you can only go by what you already know about yourself. If you look back on the past decade and you played 17 different MMOs; some only for a week or two, and some for 6 months, do you seem like a likely candidate to still be playing AoC, sight unseen, after a couple of years? Maybe not! Conversely, if the past decade saw you play a handful of MMOs and you did 1-3 years in each of them, then you MIGHT be someone who will play AoC for years. It's still an unknown, but at least you know that once you learn a game you stick with it, so there's a chance the lifetime sub will be worth it.

To use myself as a different kind of example, when LotRO launched, there was a lifetime sub. I didn't get it. About 6 months in, I was kicking myself. I had guild members who got it, and they were so smug about it. By 12 months, however, I was still playing LotRO but not hugely interested in it anymore, and I wasn't as fussed that they had the lifetime sub. By 1.5 years I'd lost all interest in LotRO and felt good that I could take my money elsewhere. My pals with the lifetime subs felt a bit trapped. They could stop playing, yes, but felt like they hadn't got their money's worth... and actually kept playing, even though they weren't enjoying themselves. Just food for thought!

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