Cosmetic concerns...

Hey all,

First of all: I am totally okay with cosmetics being in the ingame store for real money. We got a reasonable monthly fee and no box cost for that. Fine with me.

But I worry about the cash shop cosmetics being better that the cosmetics to be earned ingame.

Yes, yes I know that Steven said there will be similar cosmetics to the real money ones with a different color coloration or smth like that. The problem is one will be better that the other one. If you create similar cosmetics with just small differences one will be more desirable and the question is which one of them will it be.
The path of least resistance for money or the hard rocky way ingame with the journey of achieving the better one during a amazing battle or storyline to remember? Similarity kills the game value because the most people will choose the path of least resistance and the people with the ingame effort will have no reason to pursuit the similar, slightly different one. Why invest the time if I can just flip my credit card and get a almost identical cosmetic and look as awesome as the people who actually played the game to look the same?
In my humble opinion this is not much better as real money cosmetics better looking than the earned cosmetics. The result will be the same.

To prevent this from happening the cosmetics earned by playing the game without the cash shop have to be better looking, than the real money ones.
Again: don't get me wrong. I have no problem with ppl. buying amazing looking sets of armor and showing them of, enjoy the appearance during the game and simply be happy with it. But I have a problem with buying the absolute best looking cosmetic appearance with real money and devaluing the time invested in the character progression.

For example the cash shop cosmetic skin for a fighter has shoulder plate armor with barbaric, fierce looking spikes on it. Looks awesome, you can show off and new players will get a sense of fear when you charge at them and kind of impaling them with your shoulders. No problem with that.
But when you want to have a shoulder plate armor in the shape of a terrifying skull with barbaric, fierce looking spikes on it, you have to earn character progression ingame and feel the accomplishment of investing time in your character.

I hope my concerns and the example are understandable and this fear of mine will be proven unnecessary over time....

PS: I apologise for mistakes, English is not my first language.

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Nagash

sarkado wrote: »

The argument of on par, not better is going to be subjective to the user once again. It may look amazing to 99 people, but garbage to 1 person. It's all a matter of opinion. Hands down there will be people looking for a theme and may end of Transmoging the legendary skin to something else just because the stats on the piece are far above anything else.

bingo you hit it on the head.

Ravudha

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

Ravudha wrote: »

Talents wrote: »

For example, there are "legendary" cosmetics that can only be earned in-game that will apparently look way better than the shop ones.

On par, not better.

Interesting, that sounds better - I was going off the AMA, which was 3 days before this quote, where he says on par at 1:56:55:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVUiS7yAHE&feature=youtu.be&t=1h53m46s

Sorf

Every month when a pack is released there is always people that ask in discord etc, and every month people are reminded not too worry that the purchased skins are not going to make the in-game rewards less worthwhile.

I'll copy the comment from 30/09/2020 AoC Discord by Steven since I can't upload screenshot:

And we’ve shown some variants of the cosmetic skins in the past. But more importantly I’ve also stated that the cosmetic skins will not be like BDO where the achievable skins are trash by comparison.

Sorf

PhyleX wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

If the Cosmetic Store items were worse than those gained in-game, why would anyone buy from the Cosmetic Store? Lol

I think we can safely assume that the items bought with extra RL cash will be that little bit better than the ordinary ones.

Yea... kind of sad. If this is the reality I hope the differences will at least be minmal.

Here's a quote from Steven 04/08/2020 AoC Discord also, it's like a monthly concern they should probably put it in the description of the packs

Yes we offer cosmetics for players who wish to support the project early. The exclusive nature of the limited availability is something I think collectors value. If you buy cosmetics as an mmo player, I know I enjoyed if the cosmetic is rare and not every girl at the party is wearing the same dress.
In addition, these cosmetics are used to populate the world through npc variants and color/texture changes so their offering aligns with our production schedule.
The good thing about these packs is they contain no p2w advantages and there is no box cost, so from a mechanics standpoint you do not need to buy them to excel in the game on launch.

And also, there are comparable and subjectively more grand cosmetics achievable in game as well.

PhyleX

My concerns are solved

Nagash

PhyleX wrote: »

My concerns are solved

you have no idea how rare that is on the forums

PhyleX

Nagash wrote: »

PhyleX wrote: »

My concerns are solved

you have no idea how rare that is on the forums

Well... sometime it happens

. The rest of the game looks fine to me. The Class balance can be a debatable issue, but that will start with the beta. Long time until then....

Nagash

PhyleX wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

PhyleX wrote: »

My concerns are solved

you have no idea how rare that is on the forums

Well... sometime it happens . The rest of the game looks fine to me. The Class balance can be a debatable issue, but that will start with the beta. Long time until then....

If only more people on the forums acted like you, I would still have some sanity left

daveywavey

Nagash wrote: »

If only more people on the forums acted like you, I would still have some sanity left

But, then you wouldn't be you!

PhyleX

Nagash wrote: »

PhyleX wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

PhyleX wrote: »

My concerns are solved

you have no idea how rare that is on the forums

Well... sometime it happens . The rest of the game looks fine to me. The Class balance can be a debatable issue, but that will start with the beta. Long time until then....

If only more people on the forums acted like you, I would still have some sanity left

Thanks for the praise, mate

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