What kind of skills would you like to see on the different Archetypes?

Hello fellow Ashes of Creation Enthusiast's!

As the titel say's: What kind of skills would you like to see on the different Archetype's?
As it stand's now, we "know" the skill's for Tank, Ranger, Mage and Cleric (stil up for change as it's stil Pre-Alpha).
What kind of skill's make an Archetype the Archetype you like?
Let only your imagination set the limits. Have fun and tell US what YOU would like to see.
Anything can go! Go wild if you want!

Here are some examples me and my friends came up with out of the blue.
It can be anything, cliché or new.

• Mage - Big AoE spells, e.g. a Lightnin/fire/Snow-storm
• Mage - Mindcontrol

• Fighter - Beserker mode: The less HP you got, the more damage you do.
Dont forget the traditional redish glow when you go beserk.
• Fighter - Whirlwind - Spinning around an doing massive damage to group of enemies.

• Rouge - Slash and Dash ability - An AoE spell where you slash up to 2-5 enemies.
• Rouge - Dash ability - Where u rush through a group of enemies, like a charge.

• Ranger - Eagle for vision - You send out an eagle to a location that couts it for you, reveals invis and shows enemies on map.

• Healer - Combat resurrection

• Tank - Alot of Guardin abilities like Spell/Dmg neglacting, damage reflecting, AoE taunts, shild wall (Reinhart from overwatch)

General Spells:
• Skills that denies areas from enemies: e.g. walls, domes.
• Skills that are independently strong. Not only COMBO spells.
• Variety in build that will be useful (as little meta as possible, Impossible task tho, but you can dream)

Sorry if this has already been done in beforehand.

Best Regards, Schlol and his friends.

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Damokles

Wandering Mist wrote: »

For the Bard, we know they will likely have buffs (they are the dedicated support archetype after all), however what I'd like to see is the WAY those buffs are applied. Too often in mmorpgs buffs are party-wide passive affairs that are baked into a normal dps rotation.

What I'd like to see is a more direct approach, with buffs that have a shorter duration but offer specific effects on 1-2 party members. Taking inspiration from the original GuildWars, you have spells like this:

Aegis (duration 3 seconds): Target party member cannot be targeted by hostile spells.

Protective Bond: Target ally cannot lose more than 5% max health from a single attack or spell (costs additional mana each time damage is reduced)

Ancestor's Visage (duration 10 seconds): Foes adjacent to target ally lose x mana whenever that ally takes a melee hit.

Things like this are far more interesting to use than just doing a normal dps rotation that passively buffs your entire party.

Mesmers were cancer in PvP, and I can say that as a Derwish/Assassin player.
You never had any mana if you fought them. I would appreciate it if Bards had something similar in Ashes :'D

daveywavey

See, now the Mesmer was Guild Wars's "Rogue"! Hehehe!

Nagash

Damokles wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

For the Bard, we know they will likely have buffs (they are the dedicated support archetype after all), however what I'd like to see is the WAY those buffs are applied. Too often in mmorpgs buffs are party-wide passive affairs that are baked into a normal dps rotation.

What I'd like to see is a more direct approach, with buffs that have a shorter duration but offer specific effects on 1-2 party members. Taking inspiration from the original GuildWars, you have spells like this:

Aegis (duration 3 seconds): Target party member cannot be targeted by hostile spells.

Protective Bond: Target ally cannot lose more than 5% max health from a single attack or spell (costs additional mana each time damage is reduced)

Ancestor's Visage (duration 10 seconds): Foes adjacent to target ally lose x mana whenever that ally takes a melee hit.

Things like this are far more interesting to use than just doing a normal dps rotation that passively buffs your entire party.

Mesmers were cancer in PvP, and I can say that as a Derwish/Assassin player.
You never had any mana if you fought them. I would appreciate it if Bards had something similar in Ashes :'D

My poor necro minion spam got 2 shot by Mesmers

Sov54

More than archetypes, I would like classes to have a defined identity skills.

I would like, for example, falconers to have the falcon(s) to be dinsctintive enough, to the point of idle animation being your bird come and stand in your arm/shoulder.

Personally, I would like a melee bard class to be a fully functional frontline buffer. Beefy/useful/annoying enough to justify risking getting to close combat.

daveywavey

Nagash wrote: »

Damokles wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

For the Bard, we know they will likely have buffs (they are the dedicated support archetype after all), however what I'd like to see is the WAY those buffs are applied. Too often in mmorpgs buffs are party-wide passive affairs that are baked into a normal dps rotation.

What I'd like to see is a more direct approach, with buffs that have a shorter duration but offer specific effects on 1-2 party members. Taking inspiration from the original GuildWars, you have spells like this:

Aegis (duration 3 seconds): Target party member cannot be targeted by hostile spells.

Protective Bond: Target ally cannot lose more than 5% max health from a single attack or spell (costs additional mana each time damage is reduced)

Ancestor's Visage (duration 10 seconds): Foes adjacent to target ally lose x mana whenever that ally takes a melee hit.

Things like this are far more interesting to use than just doing a normal dps rotation that passively buffs your entire party.

Mesmers were cancer in PvP, and I can say that as a Derwish/Assassin player.
You never had any mana if you fought them. I would appreciate it if Bards had something similar in Ashes :'D

My poor necro minion spam got 2 shot by Mesmers

I liked the Ritualist. Set everything up beforehand, and just teleport them all into battle in one go.

Sunboy

As many non combat skills as possible.

Schlol

Sunboy wrote: »

As many non combat skills as possible.

Guessing your more for Tab-targeting?

What kind of non-combat skills would you like to see?

bloodprophet

Damokles wrote: »

Wandering Mist wrote: »

For the Bard, we know they will likely have buffs (they are the dedicated support archetype after all), however what I'd like to see is the WAY those buffs are applied. Too often in mmorpgs buffs are party-wide passive affairs that are baked into a normal dps rotation.

What I'd like to see is a more direct approach, with buffs that have a shorter duration but offer specific effects on 1-2 party members. Taking inspiration from the original GuildWars, you have spells like this:

Aegis (duration 3 seconds): Target party member cannot be targeted by hostile spells.

Protective Bond: Target ally cannot lose more than 5% max health from a single attack or spell (costs additional mana each time damage is reduced)

Ancestor's Visage (duration 10 seconds): Foes adjacent to target ally lose x mana whenever that ally takes a melee hit.

Things like this are far more interesting to use than just doing a normal dps rotation that passively buffs your entire party.

Mesmers were cancer in PvP, and I can say that as a Derwish/Assassin player.
You never had any mana if you fought them. I would appreciate it if Bards had something similar in Ashes :'D

Mesmer was the last toon I leveled up. (didn't like the looks). It became my second most played toon behind my Monk

The AOE interrupts and mana drain abilities were amazing as a support role in groups. Would love to see this kind of play style in AOC. Debuffing and denying foes resources in combat I think is an under used play style.

Schlol

bloodprophet wrote: »

The AOE interrupts and mana drain abilities were amazing as a support role in groups. Would love to see this kind of play style in AOC. Debuffing and denying foes resources in combat I think is an under used play style.

Would be lovely to see more interactive healer/support roles than the "stand in the back and spam heal!"

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