What does the community think about XP Debt?

Mikasa

After your Alpha 1 experience, what do you think about the XP Debt?

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I like it

Love it, the idea behind it is awesome.. The numbers were a lie in Alpha Spot Test, no doubt about it I think I even saw Steven mention it. But I want it to be harsh, but not REROLL my character harsh as I have seen some people state they did. Keep in mind to the people who didn't get to level 5 or higher with a new weapon.. the debt sucked but I overcame it with ease by farming mobs 100x faster than I was at a lower level. I think I reached a 40% debt and overcame it within 15 mins or so. The exaggeration is there because being in debt at lvl 3 by 100% will aboslutely suck and I could see why you may want to reroll. At Higher levels though I felt it wasnt harsh enough. So I am torn on any deicisions made to fix it or change it unless it really wasnt working as intended at all.

Dygz

It was fine, so far.

Vhaeyne

Highly pro XP debt. It is in line with the risk vs reward focus of the game.
I also feel that strong consequences are important in a game with open world PvP.

Tuning is something that can be done over the next few years. I would once again like to encourage the DEVs to use caution when listening to feedback about death penalty tuning. Just because I worry that most players would not ask to make the game harder.

I don't want XP debt to be so brutal that no one would want to play the game. I also don't want it to be so forgiving that it might as well not exist. I am sure there are many solutions that strike a fine balance, and I am hopeful that we get there. If we are not already there.

mcstackerson

I like it. It forces me to care dying which I think is a good thing and is lacking from a lot of games.

It's one of those things that could be tuned. Steven mentioned the exp debt figures were "janked". I had one death that was ~15% and another that was close to 50%.

Even when I got hit with 50% debt, it didn't take that long to work off.

halbarz

Does doing quest and gaining XP from them also recover the XP Debt or is only done through killing mobs?

I am perfectly fine with the feature, just curious

Nagash

I also liked it

Recluse74

Is it true that XP was given at a higher rate in Alpha 1 so you could level faster? I have seen quite a few people say something along those lines and also that they were killing mobs way above their character level...

If this is true, the XP debt will be a tad more harsh than what you are experiencing in Alpha 1.

Kivek RhuKhan

I would say non of the information pertaining to mobs, lvls etc is relevant and will all be changed, people aren't making leveling guides right now they are sorting the server side performance mechanics.

I'm going to watch the news lots of fun stuff happening on planet earth.

I like ur black flag rec74

tautau

I am very much in favor of it. It is important, makes the play of the game more serious and real.

Andy

It has been a long time since i've ever seen MMORPG with XP debt/loss.

It's a good choice and make even the leveling part important/dangerous + it add a risk/reward to this part of the game.

Nerror

halbarz wrote: »

Does doing quest and gaining XP from them also recover the XP Debt or is only done through killing mobs? I am perfectly fine with the feature, just curious

Handing in a quest cleared the debt for me, so yes, quest XP counts.

Also, I am fine with XP debt. Some tweaking required perhaps, but death should sting a little.

KariKelpie

I personally am for Exp. Debt. The only issue I had is that it seemed a bit excessive compared to the time it took to burn off.

Also, if going red increases your Exp. Debt than I think not fighting back should too. That way it would encourage people to go purple a bit more.

Recluse74

Kivek RhuKhan wrote: »

I would say non of the information pertaining to mobs, lvls etc is relevant and will all be changed, people aren't making leveling guides right now they are sorting the server side performance mechanics.

I'm going to watch the news lots of fun stuff happening on planet earth.

I like ur black flag rec74

I see what you are saying. I actually thought the debt was referring to corruption until I watched a video and they discussed XP debt, as I do not think I have played an MMO that has had it before.

Thanks btw on the Flag

JamesSunderland

I really like exp debt and exp loss systems, those make players truly fear dying and encorages more careful and strategic gameplay aswell as making death more meaningful.

Sunboy

What’s the maximum XP-debt one can collect may I ask?
Much love ❤️

umji

UMJI THINK GOOD TWO.

DEBT COLLECTOR CLASS.

Nagash

The tithe must be collected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5l1mnXtQGM

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