proximity chat

PLEASE have voice proximity chat in this game! PLEASE........ it's 2021 all the MMOs that don't have this feature are just simply missing it... it's very important MMORPGs strive from being social games, having voice proximity boosts the social aspect of the game by a ton! Just have an option to turn it off of course and your all set.

I don't care what you all think or say, it doesn't matter.... voice proximity chat should be in the game and if you think it shouldn't well then you just haven't actually thought about it and you simply just want to argue just to argue and you feed off anger.

Put voice proximity chat into the game! and make it good! and make it on the top10 most important things on your list.. or sadly this game will die about 3months after it comes out! please fucking do it ffs! I dont care what you think or do... just put the feature in the fucking game... it doesn't hurt anything or anyone if you are to sensitive or scared to have voice proximity chat, you shouldn't be on the computer in the first place and on top of that you dont want those types of customers in your game they will eat the game alive... she/him/they/it..... stfu get out of here.. we just wanna play the game and have fun no one cares that your sensitive go be a twitter warrior and stfu...

I wanna go into a dungeon at lvl 60 and kill lvl 15s killing a boss and i wanna use my mic to shit talk them while i do it, and then i wanna sit there and camp them and talk shit with my voice! this is not bad for the game...

I wanna kill a guy in a 1v1 lvl 60 and talk shit on my mic

I wanna have guild pvp and be able to NOT use discord.... and just use proximity voice chat

I wanna use my voice for whatever i want to, and if there are players that dont like it they can leave... or turn it off

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Aerlana

mr n0body wrote: »

very good suggestion. proximity chat is pretty cool and helps with the sense of immersion.

Dygz wrote: »

Proximity chat breaks immersion.

On another topic i said "stop with immersion argument" and this subject and those two post are perfect example...

Immersion is also really personnal... Some people needs a good story telling to immerse themselves in a MMORPG and its lore. Other is more how the open world is living... a friend can't immerse himself in BDO and prefer FFXIV for this, me it is total opposite. I am not receptiv to story telling to make me feel inside the game, i need just a world where i feel being one amongst large population.

For the proximity chat... i see two problem
1) all parasitic sound... just remember H1Z1 lobby to see all people could do with proximity chat. . . If there is one immersion breaking for me... it would clearly be this.
And even outside of stupid people, just those we can hear their keyboard . . .

2) then just turn it off ? It will lead to create 2 separate community inside the game : those using proximity chat and those using text chat. . . It can lead to some communication problem.
Text chat has to remain the default open world chat.

Dygz

Intrusion from the real world breaks immersion.
That is objectively true.
How much one cares about that is subjective.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

Intrusion from the real world breaks immersion.
That is objectively true.
How much one cares about that is subjective.

You must have real issues with monitor bevels.

Ravel

Stealthyguy wrote: »

.. or sadly this game will die about 3months after it comes out!

We cannot have that. I already paid for 4 months. Can you not add an extra month to that?

Fairtale

Dygz wrote: »

Proximity chat breaks immersion.
We hear all kinds of random irl crap in the background.

That is a good point. The 'fantasy' (expectation) I have of proximity chat would be to, for example, enter a tavern and be able to hear other players and pick up on rumors like which nodes are currently selling cheap items. You know: like in a typical D&D tavern.

Is there maybe a way we can get the best of both worlds? For example:

having proximity chat only in taverns;
having proximity chat bubbles over player's heads, that can be optionally clicked by others passing by? For example if the Mayor of the city is giving a speech, players could click on the audio icon over his head and listen in, circumventing the issue you described of someone blasting loud music but still keeping that part in the game?

Written chat is also very spammy, and we work around that with players reporting other players. Maybe proximity chat should only work when users have push-to-talk enabled (and not constant blasting of audio).

I would love to see/hear a Mayor's speech in full Roleplaying immersion, would be sad to pass that opportunity just because of some 12-year-old playing porn videos on max audio on purpose.

Are there better ways of doing this?

Noaani

mr n0body wrote: »

I would love to see/hear a Mayor's speech in full Roleplaying immersion

If a mayor of a node were to go to this extent, there are other ways they would go about it.

The most obvious is using Discord, but they could also just use a tavern (proximity chat in a tavern is likely to be in the game), or form a raid.

And to me, this is the point. Any time two people want to communicate with each other via voice chat, there are ways to do it. Adding proximity chat will result in 99% of it's use being where at least one person doesn't want to communicate with the other.

JustVine

Noaani wrote: »

The most obvious is using Discord, but they could also just use a tavern (proximity chat in a tavern is likely to be in the game), or form a raid.

https://www.ashesofcreation.com/news/the-mighty-beard/

Dygz

I don't know of a decent way to do proximity chat.
I feel it's best not to have it, but it's not impossible the devs could come up with something.
I find in-game chat easy enough to ignore.

Fairtale

Aerlana wrote: »

2) then just turn it off ? It will lead to create 2 separate community inside the game : those using proximity chat and those using text chat. . . It can lead to some communication problem.
Text chat has to remain the default open world chat.

I think that this is the best point against prox-chat so far, that it could create a rift.

I don't see that as a problem, since many people already choose to also disable chat types like "yells" in big cities or guild chat during raids.

I think most people are just afraid of change. I used to raid using chat only in the old days. Back then I also didn't like the idea of raid audio chat. "40 people talking in one chat? that's gonna be messy, and there is not a way to use raid warnings like that. let's not do that". But I accepted the change and now I am happy about it.

I haven't used proximity chat yet, but from what I have seen on youtube it looks like it is going to be very fun to use, even with the occasional toilet noises and trolls here and there. I think it is more about punishing those that misuse it.

I do believe it should be push-to-talk ONLY though, to reduce a bit of that stress.

I also believe that players should fall into certain categories for the type of things they say, INDEPENDENTLY if they do it in written chat or through audio. Let me report players for:
- trolling;
- spamming;
- offensive language;
- toxicity;

And then, allow players to ignore the whole categories like "toxicity" and "spam". That way, no matter if it is through audio or text messages, they don't have to deal with those players anymore (if the player gets reported enough). Not only would this help voice chat, but it could also give players an extra incentive not to fall into those categories since it should be hard to get out of them and would also affect written chat.

I think something like that is needed, independent of voice chat or not, and even before something like that is implemented, I still think the advantages of audio chat outweigh the disadvantages for those that want it.

Do you guys like that idea?

Dygz

It's not fun when you're hunting through a primordial forest and all of a sudden you hear someone screaming, "Turn the damned TV down! I told you that a thousand times. Dinner is ready."

Fairtale

@Dygz you already said that.

mr n0body wrote: »

I also believe that players should fall into certain categories for the type of things they say, INDEPENDENTLY if they do it in written chat or through audio. Let players be reported for:
- trolling;
- spamming;
- offensive language;
- toxicity;

And then, allow players to ignore the whole categories like "toxicity" and "spam". That way, no matter if it is through audio or text messages, they don't have to deal with those players anymore (if the player gets reported enough). Not only would this help voice chat, but it could also give players an extra incentive not to fall into those categories since it should be hard to get out of them and would also affect written chat.

I think something like that is needed, independent of voice chat or not

This is the part I was asking about.

Dygz

People should not be reported for random out-of-game audio playing through proximity chat.
And it's not really an individual player problem.

CROW3

First thing getting turned off if it’s implemented.

Aerlana

mr n0body wrote: »

Maybe proximity chat should only work when users have push-to-talk enabled (and not constant blasting of audio).

When people wants to be stupid, they will be...
just stick enough money on the key used to be able to talk, and you now have a constant blast of audio. just have to get the microphone near a speaker with anysound you want to share to all.

I am clearly seeing the RP potential (even if on this side, as i said, what about ladies played by a man with a clear man voice... and a virile man with a voice of a young lady... ) But i did so much RP with text in videogame now that i don't consider it so usefull for this. Personally

Noaani

One fun use I can think of for proximity chat in a game is to come up next to someone that is streaming, and blast some current popular song through to them.

Dygz

Currently in proximity chat for New World Windsward.
"Yeah, I need a second computer for if I have a friend or my girlfriend come over to play with me. So, I need like 3,000 dollars for a new computer."
"Literally, you could probably get that by selling a buncha nudes. huhuhuhuhuhah"
"Huhhhhhuuuuuuhhuuuuha. Nudes! But, seriously."
"I'll be back."

Fairtale

Dygz wrote: »

Currently in proximity chat for New World Windsward.
"Yeah, I need a second computer for if I have a friend or my girlfriend come over to play with me. So, I need like 3,000 dollars for a new computer."
"Literally, you could probably get that by selling a buncha nudes. huhuhuhuhuhah"
"Huhhhhhuuuuuuhhuuuuha. Nudes! But, seriously."
"I'll be back."

omg

I've seen worse though. Almost all the bad examples you guys gave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtlfQ4uns64

Conrad

I'm for VOIP, however! Devs should look for solutions to remedy issues it will bring.

A lot if not most problems in mmos can be solved if effort is put in. VOIP would be great for any sandbox mmo like ashes but the team HAS to work on solving any issues that arise.

Noaani

Conrad wrote: »

I'm for VOIP, however! Devs should look for solutions to remedy issues it will bring.

A lot if not most problems in mmos can be solved if effort is put in. VOIP would be great for any sandbox mmo like ashes but the team HAS to work on solving any issues that arise.

They will have VOIP in the game.

Their way of solving the issues this presents is by restricting it to group, raid and guild, as well as potentially the interior of taverns.

Conrad

Noaani wrote: »

Conrad wrote: »

I'm for VOIP, however! Devs should look for solutions to remedy issues it will bring.

A lot if not most problems in mmos can be solved if effort is put in. VOIP would be great for any sandbox mmo like ashes but the team HAS to work on solving any issues that arise.

They will have VOIP in the game.

Their way of solving the issues this presents is by restricting it to group, raid and guild, as well as potentially the interior of taverns.

Not really much of a solution. They could easily add it to the open world by having an opt in option, off by default.

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