Anyone else want druids?
TranquilOasis
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I love playing druids in MMOs. Single class that can do it all(tank/magic and melee dmg/heal), the aesthetic, Transformations, everything. I know we already have so many classes and archetypes already, but druids are my main request.
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The idea that anyone can do it all I find to be a weakness of current designs. What happened to team work and MMO's that makes people want to turn them into single player games? Needing to work together and build groups , interdependency should trump all.
aaah that gave me a chuckle. thank you.
I can just imagine Boo in bear form.
Pooh Bear doing the Snoopy happy dance.
How did you make the jump from being able to fill all roles to not needing to group? Do you think druids will be walking into 8 man content and doing it all by themselves? Just because they can fill all roles doesn't mean they will be filling them all simultaneously. And besides, summoners as they are currently described will be able to "shift their roles easily to fill gaps in a group's composition", though the extent to which they're able to is yet to be seen, so there already is an archetype whose design is to be able to do everything ever.
I think druids are a natural fit to any fantasy mmo and I would be surprised if they hadn't been considered to be one of the main archetypes at some point. The fact that none of the classes are called druid makes me hope they will be added at a later date with a shapeshifting focus.
As it stands, I would think the closest you could get would be picking a ranger as a secondary for your class, so a cleric/ranger would be the closest to a nature themed healer, etc.
Similarly to what @bloodprophet stated, I think it would cause a variety of issues in terms of balance, the social aspect of the game and overall gameplay
Have my vote lol
Example: I pick Rogue. Rogue is a dps archetype. Realistically I can never change this. But I can choose a secondary archetype to modify it. Let’s say I pick bard next. Bard is a support archetype. So rogue/bard will combine into Charlatan. Which will be a dps role with support modification. This is as close as anyone will get to a “hybrid” and you have 64 possibly combinations for players to choose from.
How would a WoW Druid fit into that system? Not possible. Even if there was only a feral druid. You now have to think of a way that it can be modified by every other class. Which while theoretically possible is arguably not worth the effort, and not something that Ashes core players even want. It’s something to please WoW tourists who watch Asmongold streams.
Let’s let WoW be WoW and Ashes be Ashes.
Thank you
If only they would allow the summoners to play like synthesists in pathfinder and merge with their summons.
You simply have to make an Eidolon's abilities inferior to all of these since it's just going to get played by everyone if it can do any of these equally well. A summoner can be a certain amount of 'equal' when built for a specific role on the other hand, in part because their weakness is unique to them and creates strategic play.
What does that leave the Eidolon? The ability to flip flop between things more quickly? I don't know. Unlike Summoner, they don't have a clear strength (many hands) to go along with their weakness (you can seperate a summon from a summoner.) A summoner could probably out compete all of an Eidolon's flexibility save for it's built in weakness if they build Summoner right.
I'm not sure what the benefit would be, just seems like there are people who want to shapeshift and the synthesists concept is probably the easiest way to give them that.
Summoner's being able to fill multiple roles will not be done on the fly like the WoW Druid. Still need to change your secondary and Respec to change your roll. Tanking and healing through/with your summon seems like it will be a fun challenge. Many will try most won't succeed.
Hopefully they leave changing as a challenge of some sort and not just a gold sink.
umm.... I do need help with my roses...
I thought we already had hobbits with the Nikua?
they EAT the roses !!!
Also loved the ability to B-rez before they gave the ability to other classes as well.
Also loved knocking people off the cliff at the LM in AB from Stealthed Cat Form.
Good times. For ashes, I just CANT WAIT TO PLAY with or without a Druid idc. LFG! Hype!
You sound like my husband. He referred to his druid as a kitty rogue.