Melee combat pvp gonna suck

Meurum24

The mage and now ranger have too many advantages where if you’re a melee you’ll get Rekt easily.

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Azherae

After deep analysis of everything we've seen I have concluded that my opinion on your claim is a resounding

"Maybe."

Meurum24

Azherae wrote: »

After deep analysis of everything we've seen I have concluded that my opinion on your claim is a resounding

"Maybe."

I want to believe I’m wrong but it seems to me from other comments on different post I’ve seen most agree it will suck.

Solmyr

Too early to tell, we haven't seen anywhere close to the full range of abilities for melee classes. They could have excellent gap closers or insane dodge/block mechanics for all we know. Also remember the combat is going to be balanced around 8v8, not 1v1, so some classes will have an innate advantage over others. Kind of a rock-paper-scissors system.

Meurum24

Solmyr wrote: »

Too early to tell, we haven't seen anywhere close to the full range of abilities for melee classes. They could have excellent gap closers or insane dodge/block mechanics for all we know. Also remember the combat is going to be balanced around 8v8, not 1v1, so some classes will have an innate advantage over others. Kind of a rock-paper-scissors system.

Balanced around 8v8? Lmao most of the time you’ll be in a 1v1 in this game and like wow they’ll have arenas most likely.

BaSkA_9x2

Such an amazing conclusion, oh shit, the forum account is 12 hours old.

Move along, next shitpost.

szelesbt

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

Meurum24

szelesbt wrote: »

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

bloodprophet

Are you sure?
Insider information?
So far we have level 10 skills at best.

Songcaller

I've said before we haven't seen complexity yet. Without complexity we have no way to rate anything seen. Perhaps you can gap close whilst using active block or perhaps not. There's no way to tell until A2 or the devs show complex pve and pvp situations.

SongRune

Meurum24 wrote: »

szelesbt wrote: »

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

Did you SEE the EPIC dash ability during the melee combat demo stream (before this last one)? Fighter isn't the class I'm worried about.

More seriously, how will Cleric stack up?

Sathrago

I like to take these posts in an optimistic light, for every new "flowery" post about the game there are 5 new quiet players excited and waiting for more information or to play the game.

Taleof2Cities

Melee combat pvp gonna suck

Meurum24 wrote: »

Lmao most of the time you’ll be in a 1v1 in this game ...

Meurum24 wrote: »

And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

Pretty bold claims for a game that's still in Alpha.

Talents

Meurum24 wrote: »

szelesbt wrote: »

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

Well there is no "Warrior" archetype in Ashes so I dunno where you're getting that from.

szelesbt

One of the only examples that we know of attributes is the fighter's charge ability. Idk about you but to me that sounds like a gapcloser ability, but maybe it's for blocking dmg

cosmichedgehog

Meurum24 wrote: »

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

I'm a warrior player also, just fyi. And has it been stated somewhere that I missed that we won't have gap closers? I don't think the full tool kit for fighters has been shown. We really don't know what we will and won't have. It's hard to speculate on a game that is still under development and in an Alpha phase.

You opinion is your opinion and that's fine. I just don't believe there is enough info out there to pass definitive judgement.

Ludullu

Meurum24 wrote: »

Balanced around 8v8? Lmao most of the time you’ll be in a 1v1 in this game and like wow they’ll have arenas most likely.

One of the main inspirations for the game is Lineage 2. And there you HAD to be in a group to be able to do any meaningful pvp. Solo pvp was utter trash. So if anything, I'd say that it's way more likely that we'll mainly see party vs party pvp rather than solo one.

And arenas will just have RPS balancing, just as Solmyr said.

Asgerr

Meurum24 wrote: »

szelesbt wrote: »

And how do we know that? What if the rouge comes out with a bunch of gapclosers and cc, while having burst dmg and stealth. Then the ranged classes will cry. My point is we have to see more from the classes before we discuss balance.

I’m a warrior player so I won’t be stealthy rogue. And there’s no gap closers on the warriors and the mage and ranger have abilities to escape

Blatantly wrong (see video below), but keep telling us how you've already figured out the entirety of all combat interaction between all classes.

Fighter/Fighter gameplay:

https://youtu.be/t3LydR8VssY?t=829s

CROW3

Hmm.. ok.

Deadfool

It's so sad to see that some people are really not ready to give "something different" a chance.
I blame them for me still being single!

(joke)

CroakerRPG

The tank class on it's own has both a charge and a pull as well as a ranged attack all earned before level 10. These were announced back in February of last year and shown in full during the Alpha test.

If anything, Rangers trying to kite are going to be in for a bad time.

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