What is the PURPOSE of a 'trash mob', to you?

For the sake of discussion, a 'trash mob' is anything that will usually die without posing any credible threat to a player (let's say solo or duo).

If that's not clear enough, think 'anything that can be killed by a bot' (for people who think bots are simplistic, and for anyone else who knows that they aren't, I figure the first definition is enough).

Why do games have these? If you prefer that a game has these, please clarify what they are adding to the game experience, for you personally.

Every mob can 'become this' if you get high enough level over it, but in at least some games, you also don't get any exp for them. So assume that the game 'intends' for you to kill them.

Thanks.

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Aszkalon

Dygz wrote: »

Typically Goblins are not trash when you first leave the starting areas.
And then once they begin to start being "trash" you've moved to a new zone.
Originally, trash mobs were the ones that are around to distract you from the boss.

In World of WoW-Token Craft -> pretty much all Monsters roaming around Instances and especially Raid Instances between the Bosses are usually called Trash Mobs by many Members of the Groups.

What would you think of those ? Fitting Description or might they be off ? Because i mean also Mobs that run around in Mob Patrols and are not necessarily anywhere near any Boss Mob.

Dygz

I think the mobs roaming around Raids that are not the boss and the bosses dukes fit my description of a Trash Mob.
Yes.

Diamaht

Vaknar wrote: »

Responding directly to the OP here:

Where I've seen some helpful trash mobs is leading up to some boss fights. I've always liked when these creatures replicate boss abilities or mechanics, or a simplified version of them. I've found that it helps build muscle memory for when it's time to interact with that boss. Sometimes that's the only way my guildies will bother learning the mechanics 🙃

Does anybody else see these mechanics, or find them helpful in MMOs and/or RPGs that you enjoy?

Honestly no, usually the mobs themselves seem more like place holders for the most part. Eve is the only one I can think of that had common mobs that use mechanics resembling what players, and more difficult mobs, would toss at you.

If you guys were to implement smaller versions of boss mechanics, and really lean into it for the common stuff, it would be fantastic.

I'm sure other games may have tried something similar in the past but the mobs themselves were usually not impactful enough to be noticeable.

Nerror

Vaknar wrote: »

Responding directly to the OP here:

Where I've seen some helpful trash mobs is leading up to some boss fights. I've always liked when these creatures replicate boss abilities or mechanics, or a simplified version of them. I've found that it helps build muscle memory for when it's time to interact with that boss. Sometimes that's the only way my guildies will bother learning the mechanics 🙃

Does anybody else see these mechanics, or find them helpful in MMOs and/or RPGs that you enjoy?

The only game I've really seen something like that in any meaningful sense was Wildstar. They had that telegraph system showing on the ground for both trash mobs and boss-types.

KingDDD

Trash mobs add ambience, group pacing, and different combat situations.

Videos like

https://youtu.be/5Wk7CuD-Pec?si=C-vsB6zbbKhcpNBv illustrate what I want in an MMO and how trash mobs can add fun into an adventure.

JamesSunderland

Even tho i see some reasons for their existance, i see their main purpose as a matter of contrast, their existence can truly highlight the abyss that can exist between them and the apex, i could only truly value how insane something like L2's Original Sin Warden's Group was when looking at lackluster average solo mobs in L2, the disparity was so great it's hard to accept both existed in the same game in the same period.

Dygz

I don’t know that I want combat to be so static and predictable that I’m relying on muscle memory - ever.

I do like map areas and dungeons and raids to be thematic.

Noaani

Dygz wrote: »

I don’t know that I want combat to be so static and predictable that I’m relying on muscle memory - ever.

I have to agree here.

Depraved

Azherae wrote: »

For the sake of discussion, a 'trash mob' is anything that will usually die without posing any credible threat to a player (let's say solo or duo).

If that's not clear enough, think 'anything that can be killed by a bot' (for people who think bots are simplistic, and for anyone else who knows that they aren't, I figure the first definition is enough).

Why do games have these? If you prefer that a game has these, please clarify what they are adding to the game experience, for you personally.

Every mob can 'become this' if you get high enough level over it, but in at least some games, you also don't get any exp for them. So assume that the game 'intends' for you to kill them.

Thanks.

hey bots can kill elite mobs and bosses too!

anyways, trash mbos are important. you cant have difficult mobs only. different levels of difficulties for different players, basically. plus you get to practice your skills and combos with little threat of dying if you mess up ;3

Aszkalon

There are several kinds of Trashmobs.

Some of them roam the Games they are in. Others roam the Forum of the Company which made the Game and defend disrespectful to unforgivable Circumstances in- and outside the Game against Critique against their D~x~lers, the Developers. Activision Lizzard deploys both kinds of them on a daily Basis. 😁

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