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Around what stage of development do we think the archetype system will be completed?

amalgamemnonamalgamemnon Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
I know this is probably getting way out in front of where we are, but one thing I think is super important to have in our minds is that the class we play is ultimately the window through which we experience the game. With half of the base archetypes having been previewed now, I'm curious about what sort of progress is being made on the other classes and, secondarily, on combining a secondaru archetype with your primary to form your class.

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  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    probs for 2025 =x
  • McShaveMcShave Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I imagine we would have all primary archetypes tested first. Hopefully we get to secondary archetypes next year.

  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    With the "end of focus" on Alpha 2, all core systems have to be finished, since after the alpha stage the mechanics of a game ought to be done. My guess is that this phase will last 18-24 months from 2024Q3 onwards.
    With that being said; within the Alpha stage time left, I'd say the archetype system most likely is of one of the highest priorities, so it'll probably be done with in the next 8-9 months. This expectation includes the augment system with which we combine classes.

    But that's just my opinion with no super secret extra info.
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • ApokApok Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    do you mean have all primary archetypes done or both main and secondary?
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Around what stage of development do we think the archetype system will be completed ?

    My Guess is -> VERY late 2024 or early 2025, probably. And i mean Base Archetypes. Still then Material for possible Development, though.
    "Secondary Archetype/Sublass" -> probably around middle to late 2025. Maybe later.

    Huh.
    Looks like the Alpha (hopefully(?) not(?) WILL take at least a Year or above. While this is a delight for some Testers, i keep my Fingers crossed and pray to Sir Steven and The Others that the Development will go smooth and safely. :wink:
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  • McShaveMcShave Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Looks like the Alpha (hopefully(?) not(?) WILL take at least a Year or above.

    With the amount of things to be tested, I could easily see alpha 2 covering up to 2 years (or more). It wouldn't be a consistent test over that time and would probably have many spot tests.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    ‘Completed’? The stage called ‘release’ and even then they will continue to iterate with little tweaks here and there for a while.
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  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    Apok wrote: »
    do you mean have all primary archetypes done or both main and secondary?

    All primary archetypes and the augments from secondary archetypes. With that being said, I think that the Beta Stage will be necessary to do the final balancing on that,
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 2024
    *meh*
    I might say... keep in mind, we are getting a Wand demo in one week rather than an Augments demo.
  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    How in-depth can a wand demo be? Got a short wand and a long wand to match the bows?
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  • KilionKilion Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    *meh*
    I might say... keep in mind, we are getting a Wand demo in one week rather than an Augments demo.

    I do, the reason why I think this is realistic is that I don't think that we will get a weapons demo for every weapon once they are finished.
    The answer is probably >>> HERE <<<
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    McShave wrote: »
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Looks like the Alpha (hopefully(?) not(?) WILL take at least a Year or above.

    With the amount of things to be tested, I could easily see alpha 2 covering up to 2 years (or more). It wouldn't be a consistent test over that time and would probably have many spot tests.

    Welp, guess for Everyone who will be allowed to test all the Time, it's gonna be Paradise. :D
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  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Songcaller wrote: »
    How in-depth can a wand demo be? Got a short wand and a long wand to match the bows?

    It's an Illumination Demo that has some Wand mechanics in it.

    Thank you, Intrepid. Wand Fighter plz.

    Perhaps some Artisanship snuck in, Wand Crafting?
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  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Oh right. I do love illuminations and good light work.
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  • AzheraeAzherae Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Rather than make a new topic, I figured I'd go find the most recent relevant older one to give lurkers an AMA update.

    Since Rogue and Summoner will not be available at start of A2, I personally expect the Archetype system to be 'completed' in March 2025, at which point the comprehensive balancing pass will begin in earnest.

    Mob redesign/reintegration phase will probably be shorter.

    Remember when considering this that if there is no Rogue, there is probably no access to 'Rogue Augments', so the beginning of A2 will probably not be battle test heavy, which is fine since we are only going to have Scientific Node types on map at that time.
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