Chicago wrote: » The money they raised in the Kickstarter most likely went soley towards apoc, which is not AoC, then the first few years of bundles seem to have gone towards something that was just scrapped, now it seems they need more money so they are selling alpha 2 packs for a 120$ price tag, after making people fomo into a 250$ pack because they were ending package sales that I can guarantee would have waited, a 120$ price tag is also to high it makes it near impossible for a huge majority of the community to participate in testing and I dispise this.
Sauronplay wrote: » This is a combination of several classic mmo games, including wow, archeage, lineage etc. There will be no action combat, as this game is classic it keeps the target combat. It is basically a game for older people, it will not attract young people used to action combat. There is nothing new in this game and there is no innovation, everything is copy and paste from classic games. Basically game made for older people. Niche game. So don't expect something modern like NW or Souls style.
patrick68794 wrote: » It's always entertaining to see people from both sides of the fence insulting each other and claiming the other side doesn't know what they're talking about when it's clear that none of them do lol
Apok wrote: » I love how anytime anyone tries to have a normal discussion about anything the fan boys to a dev team that never released a game before have to come in acting like they're the dev teams white knights here to defend their honor. All the people talking shit to the OP only have assumptions and wishful thinking to go by The part where someone said they liked ashes realism really made me laugh cause what in this game looks realistic or at least grounded in reality
P0GG0 wrote: » no NDA for alpha 2, you'll have all the info you went then.
Mag7spy wrote: » What about the dragon doesn't look realistic
Caeryl wrote: » Sauronplay wrote: » This is a combination of several classic mmo games, including wow, archeage, lineage etc. There will be no action combat, as this game is classic it keeps the target combat. It is basically a game for older people, it will not attract young people used to action combat. There is nothing new in this game and there is no innovation, everything is copy and paste from classic games. Basically game made for older people. Niche game. So don't expect something modern like NW or Souls style. It already has unlocked camera and cursor targeting, so what leads you to think it won’t keep those aspect of action combat? The feel of it in general is very ‘action-y’ even though it uses locked targeting for most abilities, which is a good thing to keep players engaged with what’s going on in the game world rather than their UI. Also, it’s not a game made for older players with lives, because the time commitment required by its systems is tuned to an audience that can comfortably no-life it, aka teenagers and young adults, maybe retired adults which definitely exist but they’re not a large demographic playing MMOs. Even more than most MMOs Ashes will penalize you for a lack of game time.
Sauronplay wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Sauronplay wrote: » This is a combination of several classic mmo games, including wow, archeage, lineage etc. There will be no action combat, as this game is classic it keeps the target combat. It is basically a game for older people, it will not attract young people used to action combat. There is nothing new in this game and there is no innovation, everything is copy and paste from classic games. Basically game made for older people. Niche game. So don't expect something modern like NW or Souls style. It already has unlocked camera and cursor targeting, so what leads you to think it won’t keep those aspect of action combat? The feel of it in general is very ‘action-y’ even though it uses locked targeting for most abilities, which is a good thing to keep players engaged with what’s going on in the game world rather than their UI. Also, it’s not a game made for older players with lives, because the time commitment required by its systems is tuned to an audience that can comfortably no-life it, aka teenagers and young adults, maybe retired adults which definitely exist but they’re not a large demographic playing MMOs. Even more than most MMOs Ashes will penalize you for a lack of game time. There is nothing innovative about this game, as I said, it is a sieve of classic MMOs. The combat is hybrid according to Steven and Intrepid, but 95% is tab target, they changed the direction of the combat 2 years ago to adopt it more to classic MMO combat, something that I did not like. I repeat, it is a niche game, for players 35+ years old, not for teenagers or young people, they will try it but they will not last even 1 week, that is most likely. Even Steven mentioned that the game will not please many, he is not making a modern game that will revolutionize the genre, NW already did it, but it failed in its content, something that many current MMOs fail at. Modern MMOs share the action combat because that is how it is, games evolve. Steven is creating a classic MMO with more updated graphics. Nothing new.
Sauronplay wrote: » It is basically a game for older people, it will not attract young people used to action combat. There is nothing new in this game and there is no innovation, everything is copy and paste from classic games.
Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » I love how anytime anyone tries to have a normal discussion about anything the fan boys to a dev team that never released a game before have to come in acting like they're the dev teams white knights here to defend their honor. All the people talking shit to the OP only have assumptions and wishful thinking to go by The part where someone said they liked ashes realism really made me laugh cause what in this game looks realistic or at least grounded in reality What about the dragon doesn't look realistic, funny you are trying to call people fan boys in an attempt to discredit as you are also interacting on the forums. Granted a guess your point is you need to be on the forums and crap on everything about the game to not be a fan boy. And if there is anything good the game does and you say good things you are a fan boy (which is a pretty stupid take)
Chicago wrote: » visually it looks realistic sure, but animations are horrid, the gameplay for a 2024 world boss is not even close to being up to par, and its not really okay to use the argument '' this is an alpha '' because this world boss, was the EXACT same world boss used 3 years ago, with the exact same mechanics, that intrepid have already got feedback on, most likely the same feedback they have got again on the forums, so why not implement any of it the first time?, was all our previous feedback just scrapped too lol
Chaliux wrote: » Chicago wrote: » visually it looks realistic sure, but animations are horrid, the gameplay for a 2024 world boss is not even close to being up to par, and its not really okay to use the argument '' this is an alpha '' because this world boss, was the EXACT same world boss used 3 years ago, with the exact same mechanics, that intrepid have already got feedback on, most likely the same feedback they have got again on the forums, so why not implement any of it the first time?, was all our previous feedback just scrapped too lol That dragon is low to not even avarage encounter design IF one has experience of the other MMOs out there. Perhaps this is amazing for some sort of niche pvp MMO players, but for all other MMO players out there this dragon is lower than avarage. Looking nice, but pve-wise nothing we havent seen in other games - better. So I fully agree. Feedback: Well, if you tell the potential customers, that you will listen to them during development, you get some sort of engagement (and their money). And you can take this as long as you want to say "iteration - it's done when it's done" to avoid commitments to deadlines and timelines that are usually done in professional and seroius plans and expensive developments with money from other persons. What they should show their audience is, how this open world encounter will be played if 2-3 groups/guilds play around it / fight against each other. It would be a wipe event consuming a lot, really a lot, of time, and this would not attract players, it would scare them of. But that's the core, that's what the promised target group is like: Fighting in front of a raid boss and wiping due to combination of pve and pvp at the same time, until one group/guild will overwhelm the other group or one group just resigns because its too time consuming and nobody wants to wipe 3h long with 0 progress. No need to add that smaller groups or solo players running around during that event will just bei terminated in seconds without any entertainment. Run around in huge raid groups all the time and you will be a winner (because in this game not everybody will be the winner, as we've heard - well, nobody but only huge groups will win, it's quite simple and trivial).
Apok wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Apok wrote: » I love how anytime anyone tries to have a normal discussion about anything the fan boys to a dev team that never released a game before have to come in acting like they're the dev teams white knights here to defend their honor. All the people talking shit to the OP only have assumptions and wishful thinking to go by The part where someone said they liked ashes realism really made me laugh cause what in this game looks realistic or at least grounded in reality What about the dragon doesn't look realistic, funny you are trying to call people fan boys in an attempt to discredit as you are also interacting on the forums. Granted a guess your point is you need to be on the forums and crap on everything about the game to not be a fan boy. And if there is anything good the game does and you say good things you are a fan boy (which is a pretty stupid take) usually when people want to argue a point, they argue using facts they don't come in calling people sad and putting others down. So if you're not doing some fanboy bs what are you doing?
