Character Models

Andi

This is supposedly a female.

Where are her hips?

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daveywavey

Hips are the Level 25 Passive.

Vhaeyne

The state of the visual aesthetics in Ashes is one of it's greatest weakness.

The proportions and aesthetics from lineage 2 look 1000x better and that game is over 20 years old at this point.

The character creator won't even let you make a remotely attractive character.

If by some miracle you pull something likable off in the character creator. It doesn't look the same once you get in the game world. I have tested it with nearly every gfx setting. Shit is getting changed.

Yes, yes, this is all alpha 2 place holder...

Also yes, Intrepid needs to know that what is currently in place is actually amongst the absolute worst player character visuals in the industry.

Ashes should not be the worst in the industry at anything with the amount of passion in the project.

Andi

And that doesn't even include the non-combat animations. Fights are fine, everything is looking and feeling great, but running or standing idly are terrible.

The above btw is my Bard, and now she also has a belt, so it looks even worse!

I seriously hope they'll work on this. Faces, bodies (the chest slider resizes your ribcage, LOL) and animations all are in dire need of work.

Thankfully, art and server tech are most likely different teams, so there's hope.

Vhaeyne

Remember when games were good...

Andi

They're afraid of criticism a la "objectifying women". So just do it like FFXIV, and make males equally hot and objectified. If everyone's "objectified", then nobody is.

Vhaeyne

Andi wrote: »

They're afraid of criticism a la "objectifying women". So just do it like FFXIV, and make males equally hot and objectified. If everyone's "objectified", then nobody is.

I don't want to jump into that conspiracy theory as tempting as it is.

I will say that the direction Baldur's Gate 3 choose in the current western games market can not be praised enough.

I would like for Ashes to be in a position where it visually can not be praised enough.

Andi

That's also gonna quell the "Ashes looks generic" cries. Characters and racial architecture will make this game distinguishable - if Intrepid chooses to work on them.

SoSpokeMika

Its not just female issue-Kaelar males are disproportioned too. Either hips are not wide enough or ribcage is too big for male models... Can't tell which one is it...

Andi

I hope they're not done yet with the character models. Didn't they update the Maori dwarves, too?

ghostdog33

Andi wrote: »

This is supposedly a female.

Where are her hips?

Is this what it looks like when hips lie? I need Shakira to clarify.

Drezao

I'm pretty sure that's an absolutely WIP

or sincerely hope so

Andi

Drezao wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's an absolutely WIP

or sincerely hope so

I'm not sure they'll touch the models again. They might bring back the old char creator and make sure all the bugs are fixed (like your ingame appearance being different from what you made in the creator), but the designs are probably what they are.

daveywavey

Andi wrote: »

I hope they're not done yet with the character models. Didn't they update the Maori dwarves, too?

It's still very early Alpha. They're just placeholder. Everything will be fine, just give it time. Go and have another watch of the Character Creator livestream, and it'll show you what's in store.

Andi

daveywavey wrote: »

Andi wrote: »

I hope they're not done yet with the character models. Didn't they update the Maori dwarves, too?

It's still very early Alpha. They're just placeholder. Everything will be fine, just give it time. Go and have another watch of the Character Creator livestream, and it'll show you what's in store.

I want to believe!

daveywavey

Andi wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

Andi wrote: »

I hope they're not done yet with the character models. Didn't they update the Maori dwarves, too?

It's still very early Alpha. They're just placeholder. Everything will be fine, just give it time. Go and have another watch of the Character Creator livestream, and it'll show you what's in store.

I want to believe!

Caeryl

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Remember when games were good...

That's hideous. Ew

Andi

Caeryl wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Remember when games were good...

That's hideous. Ew

Heresy! This is Lineage 2!

Sathrago

Its so strange that the artists seem to have a clear grasp on what "cute" is artistically, so why are we getting these empyrean elves that look like tuskless vek orcs? I dont understand why we cant have overly masculine or overly feminine clothes to wear. Let me be a badass shirtless barbarian savage warrior. Let others play the loose cloth seductive mage. I know tons of girls that play ff14 just to get cosmetics and make pretty outfit combinations for their characters to look attractive.

This is one of the biggest issues with the art team imo, they are so progressive they completed the circle back to concealing gender expression completely. May as well give everyone bourkas with different shades of black for "uniqueness".

Edit: And another thing I want to rant about these artists. They get payed a fuck ton of money, they are one of the main reasons games like this cost so much. Yet we cant even get things that we want in the game without begging. For the love of god dont ignore the vast majority of players that just want cool and attractive looking character models/armor sets.

Sathrago

This is probably the only example ive found of them getting close to anything masculine/feminine showing.

But lets be real, they did not make veks easy on the eyes. In any regard.

Vhaeyne

Caeryl wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Remember when games were good...

That's hideous. Ew

The faces are just better. The games from like 2002.

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