caldrin wrote: » why assume that in this fantasy world things will work the same.. Also who bloody cares.. I don't play mmos to look at 3d models of boobs and ass.. The character models look fine for the game as is..
Aszkalon wrote: » Armors are not supposed to make a Person look sexy. They are supposed to provide protection.
Sathrago wrote: » Its so strange that the artists seem to have a clear grasp on what "cute" is artistically, so why are we getting these empyrean elves that look like tuskless vek orcs? I dont understand why we cant have overly masculine or overly feminine clothes to wear. Let me be a badass shirtless barbarian savage warrior. Let others play the loose cloth seductive mage. I know tons of girls that play ff14 just to get cosmetics and make pretty outfit combinations for their characters to look attractive. This is one of the biggest issues with the art team imo, they are so progressive they completed the circle back to concealing gender expression completely. May as well give everyone bourkas with different shades of black for "uniqueness". Edit: And another thing I want to rant about these artists. They get payed a fuck ton of money, they are one of the main reasons games like this cost so much. Yet we cant even get things that we want in the game without begging. For the love of god dont ignore the vast majority of players that just want cool and attractive looking character models/armor sets.
Carlisle wrote: » Yeah, They look terrible, male and female. the armors are also not very pretty at the moment, they need make more clear the difference between female and male armor set
Aszkalon wrote: » Since the Showcases of middle to late June 2023 already -> i think i witnessed that they don't want to make the Armors and Models to much of a curvy Difference towards their male Counterparts. Because Ashes will probably run serious Danger then to become a kinda Barby-Dollshow in which 500 Topmodels fight 500 Topmodels in a City Siege. (lol) Kidding. But i hope you know what i mean. I think at some Point -> "hopefully" -> we will see the awesome Character Creation Options come to Life which are kinda promised from the Character Editor Footage. I think regarding more "curvy" Appearances and so on -> this will probably be enhanced visially by civil Clothes or so. Armors are not supposed to make a Person look sexy. They are supposed to provide protection.
Andi wrote: » Fashion is endgame, and it's the probably biggest source of income by far after release (Heck, put a cosmetics shop in before release, just save the unlocked ones to my account). The problem is that right now, it doesn't even matter what cosmetics they put in, because the character models are so fugly, nothing you could put on them would make them more tolerable.
Sathrago wrote: » Aszkalon wrote: » Armors are not supposed to make a Person look sexy. They are supposed to provide protection. fantasy worlds tend to have this thing called magical armor that can take on many forms and still protect you. we already know transmog will be in the game. Nothing is holding this back save weirdo conservative progressive artists.
Vhaeyne wrote: » Andi wrote: » Fashion is endgame, and it's the probably biggest source of income by far after release (Heck, put a cosmetics shop in before release, just save the unlocked ones to my account). The problem is that right now, it doesn't even matter what cosmetics they put in, because the character models are so fugly, nothing you could put on them would make them more tolerable. This is so important to really focus in on now more than ever. Think about the failure of Concord, Starfield and Veilguard. Then think about the success of Baldur's Gate Three, Eldin Ring and FFXVI. The art direction on the current faces is that of a fail game. I want better for Ashes. Right now the only cosmetic I am interested in is a paper bag for a helm. I don't know how much money they can make selling cosmetics that make you not want to see the character, but I imagine making good looking characters will be more profitable.
Caeryl wrote: » Vhaeyne wrote: » Andi wrote: » Fashion is endgame, and it's the probably biggest source of income by far after release (Heck, put a cosmetics shop in before release, just save the unlocked ones to my account). The problem is that right now, it doesn't even matter what cosmetics they put in, because the character models are so fugly, nothing you could put on them would make them more tolerable. This is so important to really focus in on now more than ever. Think about the failure of Concord, Starfield and Veilguard. Then think about the success of Baldur's Gate Three, Eldin Ring and FFXVI. The art direction on the current faces is that of a fail game. I want better for Ashes. Right now the only cosmetic I am interested in is a paper bag for a helm. I don't know how much money they can make selling cosmetics that make you not want to see the character, but I imagine making good looking characters will be more profitable. Shitty writing and lackluster gameplay killed those games Ashes should work exactly like BG3 does for cosmetics, ie armor should be the same on both sexes. Skimpy for both or realistic for both. None of this 'women get the skimpy version' shit
Andi wrote: » Caeryl wrote: » Vhaeyne wrote: » Andi wrote: » Fashion is endgame, and it's the probably biggest source of income by far after release (Heck, put a cosmetics shop in before release, just save the unlocked ones to my account). The problem is that right now, it doesn't even matter what cosmetics they put in, because the character models are so fugly, nothing you could put on them would make them more tolerable. This is so important to really focus in on now more than ever. Think about the failure of Concord, Starfield and Veilguard. Then think about the success of Baldur's Gate Three, Eldin Ring and FFXVI. The art direction on the current faces is that of a fail game. I want better for Ashes. Right now the only cosmetic I am interested in is a paper bag for a helm. I don't know how much money they can make selling cosmetics that make you not want to see the character, but I imagine making good looking characters will be more profitable. Shitty writing and lackluster gameplay killed those games Ashes should work exactly like BG3 does for cosmetics, ie armor should be the same on both sexes. Skimpy for both or realistic for both. None of this 'women get the skimpy version' shit That's exactly what we're asking for. Make attractive char models to begin with, so you'd want to put cosmetics on them. Make outfits in various forms for various tastes: heavily armoured or seductive, any kind. Make outfits equally attractive for both sexes. The more character customization you allow, the more char expression is possible. This will attract female players (definitely not how that works for getting women to play a videogame, it just has to be good and the community not rancid) and roleplayers alike, and you want those, too. Make cosmetics a steady stream of income. FFXIV has a shop and a sub, and so does WOW.
pyreal wrote: » Sathrago wrote: » Aszkalon wrote: » Armors are not supposed to make a Person look sexy. They are supposed to provide protection. fantasy worlds tend to have this thing called magical armor that can take on many forms and still protect you. we already know transmog will be in the game. Nothing is holding this back save weirdo conservative progressive artists. "conservative progressive" I don't think that means what you think it means. WTS Dehydrated water
Caeryl wrote: » Some people in here are definitely asking for women to get the skimpy version, given the near nudity on that cartoon looking elf that got posted. Solid 'no thanks' to that asian mmo nonsense.