The Plea of the People: Linux Please

Vaknar and team, this is just a post to support and reiterate generally the plea of the people:

We beseech thee, at some point during Alpha development, pronounce our piteous but pious plea to the diligent developers. The Alpha of Ashes is, for many, the sole anchor keeping a pernicious partition of Windows on our PCs. Once Ashes enables Linux support with the existing frameworks allowable in EAC and Unreal Engine, we will be unshackled. Only then, unfettered from the malevolent malaise of Microsoft, will be be free to operate from our home partition.

We are aware that this has long been on the team's radar, but our suffering compels us to lament and implore. Thank you for noting this sentiment in your internal chats. From what is visible to the public eye regarding Easy Anti Cheat and Unreal Engine, it would hopefully not be too laborious of an undertaking to reap such positive player sentiment from allowing Linux users to play. Thanks!

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Verus

Loud Linuxless lamentations linger, longingly listening, languishing. Long lakes of loss, little left of luck.

ariatras

I've elected not to test at all. Which is a shame. I'm having a lot of issues with Webviewer2 dependencies.

Benzy037

It's a long road, but it's possible to make it work. It would be nice to have an official version for Linux. Ashes will mark the future of MMOs, hopefully in this field as well.

crazysam87

I'm sure Intrepid is hard at work implementing that so they can benefit from 5 more subscribers. In all seriousness, it's probably far too expansive and the returns nowhere near enough to justify it.

Guillemets

crazysam87 wrote: »

I'm sure Intrepid is hard at work implementing that so they can benefit from 5 more subscribers. In all seriousness, it's probably far too expansive and the returns nowhere near enough to justify it.

There are dozens of us! Dozens I say! I've been playing on Linux since phase 1. If they could fix the launcher button we'd have a less jank setup but in game works fine. See: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/62094/linux-tips-tweaks-and-troubleshooting-thread/p1

crazysam87

Guillemets wrote: »

crazysam87 wrote: »

I'm sure Intrepid is hard at work implementing that so they can benefit from 5 more subscribers. In all seriousness, it's probably far too expansive and the returns nowhere near enough to justify it.

There are dozens of us! Dozens I say! I've been playing on Linux since phase 1. If they could fix the launcher button we'd have a less jank setup but in game works fine. See: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/62094/linux-tips-tweaks-and-troubleshooting-thread/p1

Oh so you can actually, just not natively for now?

Guillemets

crazysam87 wrote: »

Guillemets wrote: »

crazysam87 wrote: »

I'm sure Intrepid is hard at work implementing that so they can benefit from 5 more subscribers. In all seriousness, it's probably far too expansive and the returns nowhere near enough to justify it.

There are dozens of us! Dozens I say! I've been playing on Linux since phase 1. If they could fix the launcher button we'd have a less jank setup but in game works fine. See: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/62094/linux-tips-tweaks-and-troubleshooting-thread/p1

Oh so you can actually, just not natively for now?

Yeah, so natively isn't really needed. It works via Wine. EAC is working if you launch via Steam, something to do with Steams Proton Wine that makes it work.

The process now is to launch the launcher, then open steam and separately launch the AoC client and pass it the launcher port.

It would be nice if eventually the Ashes launcher worked for Linux. It doesn't throw an error. The launch game button just doesn't work. There's definitely bigger bugs and issues than that for now but even a little love before beta would be nice.

Verus

Intrepid is likely very aware of the decline of Windows and consequent rise of Linux among not only gamers, but general PC users. One Google search will show the metrics, and much of the rationale is readily apparent with the public sentiment of Windows and its spyware, AI, reduction of functions, stripping of user control, and more, while Linux is at a point where users can for most purposes install, plug, and play without any technical knowledge.

Particularly with the advent of Steam's Proton and the growth of other platforms such as Lutris, most games are very easily playable without any fiddling necessary. Enabling the existing engine's Linux support should not be a daunting challenge, and its benefits will be seen to outweigh the effort. The engine and anti-cheat they use is already Linux-compatible, so the remaining consideration is if any extra exploit-protection measures can be put in place in accepting Linux natively.

Noaani

Guillemets wrote: »

crazysam87 wrote: »

I'm sure Intrepid is hard at work implementing that so they can benefit from 5 more subscribers. In all seriousness, it's probably far too expansive and the returns nowhere near enough to justify it.

There are dozens of us! Dozens I say! I've been playing on Linux since phase 1. If they could fix the launcher button we'd have a less jank setup but in game works fine. See: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/62094/linux-tips-tweaks-and-troubleshooting-thread/p1

Tall to people that work in tech support for any game thst supports Linux and Windows.

90% of the tech support they offer is for the less than 1% of players the game has using Linux.

From an outright business perspective, it does not make sense to support Linux.

If Intrepid were planning on launching on Steam, they could use some of Valves resources to ease that issue - but they aren't.

If Intrepid do eventually support Linux, they will regret it.

Guillemets

Noaani wrote: »

Tall to people that work in tech support for any game thst supports Linux and Windows.

90% of the tech support they offer is for the less than 1% of players the game has using Linux.

From an outright business perspective, it does not make sense to support Linux.

If Intrepid were planning on launching on Steam, they could use some of Valves resources to ease that issue - but they aren't.

If Intrepid do eventually support Linux, they will regret it.

I remember the Twitter thread that those numbers come from. It specifically had to do with bug reports by Linux users accounting for "90%" (or something large and scary) of their bug reports despite being 1% of sales/revenue. It was one developer and everyone that's never used Linux but is scared of computers likes to quote it.

If the numbers are actually accurate, the dev was complaining that Linux users were submitting more bug reports than Windows users for his game. Without context we have no idea why this was the case. Was the game a port of a Windows version and half baked so there were still issues? Were the Linux users just more likely to submit bug reports that their Windows counterparts? Of those 90% of bug reports, how many issues affected both Windows and Linux?

Why would Intrepid regret it if they made a native client? The game already works on Linux.

SmileGurney

Linux peasantry is rebelling again, sire. The whole two of them.

Funkychicken

I have spent hours on this with the guys on the forum and doing my own debugging. I have some videos in the forum link but here are the steps to make it work. One thing which worked for me is Nobara Linux 40,41.

Installing Ashes on Linux on Kali - no longer use Kali for gaming
Running Ashes of linux on Kali (when realms are down)
Ashes fully running on linux using the previous video methods and on Nobara Linux

Just a little note:

I could not get the game to run 100% in Kali. It would get to the splash loading page in the game, get to the 75% section. PC would freeze and crash. This was on Kali.

Ubuntu - same thing

Fedora - Managed to get in the game OK. Instability within the game caused me to quite numerous times and game crashing.

Fedora. Game works 100%. No crashing, works as good as Windows.

You may need to do a new install of Nobara. I used the main ISO and then installed the Nvidia stuff after. The only thing I dont like Nobara is that it defaults to wayland. So (i know it has bugs with gaming) if you want to get rid of this, you may want to install xorg and then switch to that instead.

Have fun

iiitzur

just wanted to pop in and say that today Thursday Dec 11th, I downloaded Ashes from Steam and was able to play just fine for 5 hours with absolutely no issues. Literally just a download and play. Ashes making the move to Steam seems to be great for Linux.

Verus

Confirmed! On Linux Mint, all that was required to launch via Steam was to use enable Experimental as the Proton layer.

For those Googling this: In your Steam library, right-click Ashes in your list,. Go to properties, compatibility, and toggle it on. Select Proton Experimental as the layer. Now you're all set to play, but the graphics may be a tad funky at times at least until it is fixed.

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