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FEEDBACK - DELETION OF FEEDBACK POSTS

DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
I just want to say that is is a really bad look when a general piece of feedback and discussions on a new features being added to the game is removed by the moderation team on the forums. There was no issue with the post or the idea of the posts. Use want feedback but cant take the sometimes harsh reality of the feedback because a system use have designed is broken or downright bad for the majority of the player base. Wondering if anyone else has had this happen to their posts? Randomly deleted or removed from the forums seemingly for no reason at all?

Comments

  • rolle999rolle999 Member, Alpha Two
    Its a horrible look and even though you guys might not feel it right now if you ignore player feedback eventually the player base will leave and take their money with them and you will have no one else to blame but yourselves.
  • GarmanicusGarmanicus Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Yeah, really weird my post got taken down with no feedback or follow-up from a mod. I thought it was relatively tame and constructive? If I violated a rule or something that, why not just tell me?
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    The fact a feedback post with nothing bad inside it was removed only a handful of hours after it was posted. Absolutely unacceptable to remove actual proper feedback.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 2
    It probably just got caught up in the moderation they are doing due to spammers - who have been very active here over the last little bit.

    As an example of how this isn't actual moderation, I will now tell you all to calm the fuck down, and you can watch how this post isn't removed.
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    If there isnt actual moderation here, i dont see why a system would take down a legitimate post that had actual feedback in it? like if a post isnt going to get removed based on swearing or rude language then im not sure what warrants a post people removed?
  • rolle999rolle999 Member, Alpha Two
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.

    You have been given a reason - it was probably caught up in anti-spam efforts.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 2
    DrDingo wrote: »
    If there isnt actual moderation here, i dont see why a system would take down a legitimate post that had actual feedback in it?
    I assume you have never been involved in any form of anti-spam systems.

    False positives are literally an inevitability with them. Any system that doesn't have a few casualties is also not dealing with spam at all.

    Edit to add; that said, there IS moderation here, it just that there is a fairly high threshold for when they step in. If you doubt that there was much wrong with a post, then you definately didn't get anywhere near where Intrepid would step in, meaing it wasn't taken down by moderation - leaving anti-spam filtering as the only thing left.
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    Well then its sad to see that they dont care to actually implement such a system to properly find spam messages and actual people with proper concerns get left in the dirt again. 10/10 another broken system
  • rolle999rolle999 Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.

    You have been given a reason - it was probably caught up in anti-spam efforts.

    who are you lol were you in the room when it happened?
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    DrDingo wrote: »
    Well then its sad to see that they dont care to actually implement such a system to properly find spam messages and actual people with proper concerns get left in the dirt again. 10/10 another broken system

    They aren't implementing it, they are using the system that comes with the forum software they use.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.

    You have been given a reason - it was probably caught up in anti-spam efforts.

    who are you lol were you in the room when it happened?

    You seem overly aggressive towards someone that is giving you the only answer you are going to get.
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    Regardless its extremely poor for a anti spam system to pick up non spam post. Means the creator of this forum and its system really shouldnt of been chosen. Other platforms might of been a better pick. Just sad to see
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    a Spam filter is fine but if someone isnt actually posting constant message then they arent spamming.. so i see no reason for the system to flag such a post unless they system is poorly designed and therefore this platform shouldnt of been selected if its anti spam was such poor quality
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    This is no stab at you Noaani its just the system has failed which is a really bad look for Intrepid if they want people to actually have faith that their post will be seen
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 2
    DrDingo wrote: »
    Regardless its extremely poor for a anti spam system to pick up non spam post.

    It is literally industry standard.

    It tends to happen mostly with people that sign up to forums and start threads before posting in existing ones. This is not considered "standard forum user behavior" in a general sense, and is in fact why many forums have an "introduce yourself" or similar section.

    It is absolutely not a bad reflection on Intrepid at all (believe me, I have enough negative things to say about them). It is just how these things are.
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    HIT EM WITH THE OLD "INDUSTRY STANDARD" BOYS! . Cause god forbid nobody looks or does anything better. Its like a construction company hiring a sub contractor who does shit work. It still looks bad on the company cause they hired the shitty subcontractor haha :D
  • rolle999rolle999 Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.

    You have been given a reason - it was probably caught up in anti-spam efforts.

    who are you lol were you in the room when it happened?

    You seem overly aggressive towards someone that is giving you the only answer you are going to get.

    You are acting overly pompous white knighting a thing as if its in anyway acceptable.
  • ShadonSolShadonSol Moderator, Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    👋 @Garmanicus looks like your post was flagged by our spam filter, but it should be back online now.

    The spam filter surely isn't perfect, but it helps to prevent turning this forum into an advertising hell :)
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  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    DrDingo wrote: »
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.

    I mean, I'm right.

    You'll note that I said it mostly happens with people that sign up to a forum and start a thread without posting in others, not that it only happens in this situation.

    I am wondering if the two of you feel a little silly with how aggressively you dismissed the actual and true answer you were given - I know I would.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 3
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    rolle999 wrote: »
    Everyone in this forum paid money to be in here and they deserve a reason be given when a post is removed.

    You have been given a reason - it was probably caught up in anti-spam efforts.

    who are you lol were you in the room when it happened?

    You seem overly aggressive towards someone that is giving you the only answer you are going to get.

    You are acting overly pompous white knighting a thing as if its in anyway acceptable.

    Forum spam filters have a lower ratio of false positives than cancer testing. Of course the occasional false positive is acceptable.

    Stop being so damn dramatic.
  • GizbanGizban Member, Braver of Worlds, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    DrDingo wrote: »
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.

    I mean, I'm right.

    You'll note that I said it mostly happens with people that sign up to a forum and start a thread without posting in others, not that it only happens in this situation.

    I am wondering if the two of you feel a little silly with how aggressively you dismissed the actual and true answer you were given - I know I would.

    If you didn't sound so arrogant, others might react differently.
    I don't know you personally, obviously, but you come across as insufferable.

    I usually just blow by your posts because I haven't bothered to figure out the ignore feature.. but I understand being misunderstood, even if that's not the position you feel you're in.

    Being autistic I often experience bewilderment at other's thinking. Some things are *so* clear and obvious to me I cannot fathom how others can't see it. Or when the next logical step isn't the one chosen. I scream inside and am speechless.

    I also know that the problem lies with me, and that my rigid black & white thinking is what needs to be tempered. I purposely phrase (mask) things as 'guesses', as frank and clipped speech is not the norm and puts people off. I don't want to be seen as an asshole because that is not my intention, I am simply speaking in my natural clutter-free way.

    TLDR: If you don't want to be seen as an AHOLE, you should try not to sound like one.
  • NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack, Alpha Two
    edited February 3
    Gizban wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    DrDingo wrote: »
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.

    I mean, I'm right.

    You'll note that I said it mostly happens with people that sign up to a forum and start a thread without posting in others, not that it only happens in this situation.

    I am wondering if the two of you feel a little silly with how aggressively you dismissed the actual and true answer you were given - I know I would.

    If you didn't sound so arrogant, others might react differently.
    I mean, if I cared what other people thought of me, I'm sure I would change something.

    However, I don't.
    Gizban wrote: »
    I also know that the problem lies with me
    No, that problem doesn't lie with you. You are basically saying it is your fault that other people can't see logic.

    If you care what other people think about you, that is a problem that lies with you. I don't have that problem.
  • LochLoch Moderator, Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I would kindly remind everyone that as long as conversations stay productive, and follow the TOS, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. If you feel something has been done in error, you can reach out to the support team to inquire why.
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  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    Gizban wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    DrDingo wrote: »
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.

    I mean, I'm right.

    You'll note that I said it mostly happens with people that sign up to a forum and start a thread without posting in others, not that it only happens in this situation.

    I am wondering if the two of you feel a little silly with how aggressively you dismissed the actual and true answer you were given - I know I would.

    If you didn't sound so arrogant, others might react differently.
    I don't know you personally, obviously, but you come across as insufferable.

    I usually just blow by your posts because I haven't bothered to figure out the ignore feature.. but I understand being misunderstood, even if that's not the position you feel you're in.

    Being autistic I often experience bewilderment at other's thinking. Some things are *so* clear and obvious to me I cannot fathom how others can't see it. Or when the next logical step isn't the one chosen. I scream inside and am speechless.

    I also know that the problem lies with me, and that my rigid black & white thinking is what needs to be tempered. I purposely phrase (mask) things as 'guesses', as frank and clipped speech is not the norm and puts people off. I don't want to be seen as an asshole because that is not my intention, I am simply speaking in my natural clutter-free way.

    TLDR: If you don't want to be seen as an AHOLE, you should try not to sound like one.

    This is literally my take as well. Pity there isnt an ignore button
  • DrDingoDrDingo Member, Alpha Two
    Noaani wrote: »
    DrDingo wrote: »
    The person who posted the post has been here for a long time so its not a new person posting so i wont take that for an answer even for a second. Ah the good old "industry standard" this phrase is used when people have accepted things are how they are and wont call people out for the use of such shitty things.

    I mean, I'm right.

    You'll note that I said it mostly happens with people that sign up to a forum and start a thread without posting in others, not that it only happens in this situation.

    I am wondering if the two of you feel a little silly with how aggressively you dismissed the actual and true answer you were given - I know I would.

    Awww its ok buddy not everyone is always correct and sometimes you just have to accept your wrong maybe not this time but in the future you might accept your wrong :) lots of love Dingo
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