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For Braver of Worlds, we get a free freehold right?
Faeri Pinkett
Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
How does this work,
Since free-holds are going to be so important once the game comes out, are we starting out with a cool advancement that others can't get for a while?
I mean, we're a big founder so it makes sense. But are we still going to have to do the 'quest' to get a freehold? or from level 1 will we beable to just bee-line it for where we want to live?
I was reading the wiki page for it and I'm still very confused.
Since free-holds are going to be so important once the game comes out, are we starting out with a cool advancement that others can't get for a while?
I mean, we're a big founder so it makes sense. But are we still going to have to do the 'quest' to get a freehold? or from level 1 will we beable to just bee-line it for where we want to live?
I was reading the wiki page for it and I'm still very confused.
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As cool as this sounds and while i am absolutely not against your Hopes and so on,
... ... ... how exactly is that supposed to be able to be realised ingame ?
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Sadly we're not, haha. We just get a bunch of skins we have no ability to use unless somehow we're lucky and get some of the super sparse and very hard to get free-holds.
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So,
I spent $500 and have 3 separate skins in my arsenal for freehold.
But freehold aren't guaranteed, their basically a "you have to get ahead of everyone else and earn one." So why sell skins??? most people won't ever get one that work a full time job?? Their for the top % of each profession for each node. That's PRETTY damn hard for anyone whose working or has families.
Which are realistically the only ones of us who probably bought these packs??
yes, freehold are super strong and op - but 3 skins for something you can't even guarantee having for $500 is kind of REALLY bad. Because we didn't understand that capacity years ago, my friend has the $1000 pack and he also thought we were getting a free-freehold until I just told him. Honestly? I think the lack of clarity upon PURCHASING the packs was insane on that front.
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You don't need to own the freehold, you just need to have family level access.
For the most part, freeholds are infrastructure for small groups of players, not individuals.
You and a few friends should be able to get one if you out effort in to it - and if you dontnput effort in to it you can't really complain that you can't use the skin you have for the thing you aren't willing to put effort in to.
The whole "we should have known when we bought it" angle has been hammered out on these forums before. The game is in testing, everything was advertised as being subject to change.
I don't expect you to be a particular fan of that, I am not one either. However, that is just how it is, and us not liking it won't change it.
I didn't argue it should change,
It's just really... poor? I don't know, it's like... The idea of the freehold is amazing, the depth and diversity of it.
But if it's a severely limited commodity, "being able to afford it." isn't the only issue.
It'll come down to if your guild has more members of a status or rank that are able to achieve it than others...
Furthermore whats to stop guilds from spreading their members out between multiple nodes, leveling up rapidly using tactics and knowledge gained from alpha-beta testing, and then just sweeping to try to claim as many freeholds for their one guild as possible?
Once you own the freehold, its yours until you sell it right?
Theres already guilds talking about the best ways to monopolize information and obtain resources to keep for themselves to prevent others from doing it, if it's capable to be owned by multiple individuals of the same guild - there are definitely guilds that would try it.
It's in the spirit of a game in which it's tough luck buttercup, but it's just not a feels good moment. I'm going to arguably say I wanted the freehold most out of everything.
Even if it's for small groups, with the ability to assign usage and building perms or something, and more to be added there - It's still got the above issues. we already see how fast people rush for things in just these alphas. People will be prepared.
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Or until your node gets sieged and destroyed, and your freehold ends up outside the influence range of any other node, and ends up getting wiped and lost.
Yeah, there was a lot of disappointment when it was revealed that the freeholds we'd been looking forwards to for so long wouldn't actually be available to the majority of players. Best thing you can do is to get in testing and give your feedback. It's not set in stone, and Intrepid will consider most feedback.
I never really expected to have a freehold, but it would be nice.
The reason I bought Braver was for the lifetime sub. Pretty much everything else was gravy.
I thought the freehold would be included. I wrote tons of fanfic and stuff in the past, some of which was popular here on the forums. From what originally was talked about for concepts of freehold, it was like I could build a tavern and be place of respite for my guildies to hangout.
Idk, it's like not the worst news, its just upsetting.
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I hope this is sarcasm.
But I thought I spent $500 on a video game for a life-time subscription and access to player housing that shouldn't be too hard to obtain and cute decorations/skins for that housing.
To find out that it's going to be very hard to obtain and limited, no p2w is fine.
But it's like...? lmao. The lifetime sub is so far the only really good thing about $500.
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Dude, wipe the shit off your nose.
I pre-empted the argument, either from you or someone else (other people that thought the same may look up this thread).
Your argument is that freeholds will be limited, and somewhat controlled by a small number of people. That is essentially what Ashes is as a game - a small number of people having control over a larger number of people. There is almost nothing in Ashes that isn't sybject to this - freeholds are just one more aspect.
I totally get your point. I too can no longer in my Life be as competitive against others in MMO's as i was like easily Sixteeen to Eighteen Years ago during the early Years of for Example Worst of Warcraft.
There is still a 100% Possibility you will be able to get a Freehold -> but you will need to be part of a Guild to get one, i think. A Guild which has enough capable Members to secure One or several Freeholds for their Members.
And then you might be forced (or not) to share your Time in which you can be a Freehold-Owner or not. It is a bit sad. As i personally see it -> not a single "normal Person" will ever be able to get a Freehold. It will always be Groups.
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