Is AoC finally the WoW killer?

Kalashnikov

Like the title says...

Is Ashes of Creation the WoW killer? I need a new game.

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Songcaller

No. Ashes is a completely different game.

Liz_Vermillion

The only thing that will kill WoW is WoW. Ashes will be good (hopefully) but won't dethrone WoW.

darthaden

As long as Ashes has enough players to keep the world feeling populated and fund future updates that's good enough. We don't need it to kill WOW or any other MMO for that matter. We're actually better off if it doesn't, competition is a good thing.

Taleof2Cities

Neurath wrote: »

No. Ashes is a completely different game.

darthaden wrote: »

We don't need it to kill WOW or any other MMO for that matter.

These are the correct answers.

Those who are enjoying Ashes gameplay aren’t going to care about its effect on WoW.

Nerror

Kalashnikov wrote: »

Is Ashes of Creation the WoW killer?

Yes. Ashes is basically a WoW clone, but in UE5, and I am 100% sure that Microsoft will shut down the WoW servers the day of AoC release, because they know they can't compete.

Blood_Raven

I agree with the above statements. Ashes wont kill wow because it does not really compete in the same space of the mmo genre. That does not mean that Ashes can not be really successful. Ashes is just ment for a different target audience.

I love it when Steven says "The game wont appeal to everyone and if you don't like the core game mechanics feel free to go someplace else." It is a refreshing statement that more game studios need to take instead of trying to cater to everyone.

Enigmatic Sage

Nerror wrote: »

Kalashnikov wrote: »

Is Ashes of Creation the WoW killer?

Yes. Ashes is basically a WoW clone, but in UE5, and I am 100% sure that Microsoft will shut down the WoW servers the day of AoC release, because they know they can't compete.

I mean it is full of dress up features and cosmetics with a cash shop... lots of pets and mounts to collect... Samurai orcs... pretty much a clone... lol

Percimes

No. After a productive and long life which has touched millions of people, WoW will die of old age.

Or it will attain lichdom and exist in undeath until its phylactery server is shutdown or destroyed.

Enigmatic Sage

Percimes wrote: »

No. After a productive and long life which has touched millions of people, WoW will die of old age.

Or it will attain lichdom and exist in undeath until its phylactery server is shutdown or destroyed.

i do like how the characters are aging as the story goes on even if it's gone disney-like.

Vaknar

I'm personally not the biggest fan of thinking of WoW as the MMORPG above all, that needs usurping. Sure, people only have so much time and they'll dedicate that time to the games they enjoy, and sometimes that becomes the most accessible, easy-to-play, or most popular game, and that's ok!

Everyone at Intrepid is setting out to make the best possible MMORPG that we can, and the one we all want to play. However, it's not going to be for everyone, which is ok! As long as we have a community that enjoys the game, and we're able to keep it going, we win! Of course, it would be wonderful if Ashes of Creation becomes the next most popular MMORPG! Though, we don't necessarily need to dethrone or kill another game to be successful

This is just my own personal 2 cents on the matter. I'd be curious to hear how you all feel about this!

Enigmatic Sage

The whole wow killer agenda gets old.

Usually streamers pushing it for content/view baiting for hype just like how streamers also claim any other MMORPG will fail. It's almost like it's a War of the Shills lol

CtrlAltFrank

The only WoW killer to ever exist has been WoW itself. Other wise Ashes doesn't need to be a WoW killer, it just needs to be Ashes.

Raven016

Why do people play WoW?

Hinotori

Raven016 wrote: »

Why do people play WoW?

Millennia ago I played it because it was fun. Then it stopped being fun, so I stopped playing it.

I tried to go back and it still wasn't fun so I played other things that were fun.

And then I heard of ashes and it sounded fun, so I thought "why not."

And then a1 came and it was fun, so I was happy.

Hopefully the fun continues.

Solvryn

Kalashnikov wrote: »

Like the title says...

Is Ashes of Creation the WoW killer? I need a new game.

WoW is very unenjoyable for a lot of us and it’s not dead yet.

I don’t care if WoW lives or does because it’s not consequential to my MMO experience and it never was my first choice of a game.

A lot of the MMOs out there are not.

Kilion

I don't think it will, but I think it still sizes up to set standards for the broader genre of MMORPGs.

The possibility/intended risk of gameplay disruption from other players is the reason why I think this game will not push WoW off the top spot in the list by player count. This is definitely something a lot, if not the majority of players don't enjoy; at least for now. After all sentiment can change if given time.

The thing however with Ashes is that its system update the gameplay loop significantly so I wouldn't be surprised to see a PvE of Ashes version come up in the future. In it, a lot of the player conflict mechanics could be replaced by stronger focus of dynamic system driven PvE scenarios, dungeons and PvP zones would probably be instanced most of the time and consequences of the events in these instances could be added up to then cause changes in the rest of the world. Anyhow this pure speculation assuming that bigger game development studios would even be interested in developing such a product given the capex they have to raise, bind for years if not a decade in development until they can finally release such an intricate product (and let's be real: to them it would be indeed a "product" more than anything else).

TL;DR: The dynamic season&weather system, the world-player reaction system and quest design that Ashes has prompted in its development process could become the basis on which a WoW-Killer MMO could rely. But the level of competition and disruption in Ashes is - as of now - too nasty for the broad player base to enjoy IMO.

Heljy

Dethroning WOW seems vain and a little off topic. Today’s players are very mobile and play multiple games.

Games do not replace each other, they coexist. Especially when they have different proposals.

For example :
I love WoW Era for various reasons. The game is casual and chill and I come back to it regularly by periods. I will probably continue for years to come.

I also like Rust which is a strong opposite given its hardcore and stressful side. I’ve been playing both games for years alternately, and neither has ever replaced the other.

So AoC in all this? I will surely play a lot (too much?) in view of the possibilities of emerging gameplay that it seems destined to offer, and its hight fantasy universe. However I will still play Wow, Rust, BG, Skyrim, etc.

In short, let’s hope that AoC and its community are the best possible, and let’s enjoy the games we love without trying to create barriers between their players.

In fact, if we wanted AoC to dethrone Wow, the games would have to fight on the same promise for the comparison to be relevant. But no one here wants another WoW clone, I’m sure!

Glir

I'm not a big WoW fan, but. There were few games that positioned themselves as WoW killers. Rift, SWTOR and both RIPed.

If Ashes competes, it will be more with Korean MMORPGs, like Archeage 2, Bellatores, Chrono Odyssey and etc.

Myosotys

Kalashnikov wrote: »

Like the title says...

Is Ashes of Creation the WoW killer? I need a new game.

I never played WoW even one time in my life but I would like AoC get as much players as WoW

Nova_terra

The idea that any game is the WOW killer is a fools errand. These are two different types of games that cater to two different sets of demographics. At the end of the day I am hopeful that AOC will capture a large amount of players as that can only enrich the game (Keeping their tenets/pillars intact and not washing away the soul of the game in the hopes of capturing more players) and if it is wildly successful that is great, but I don't see a lot of overlap in systems/demographics.

Long answers short, No it probably won't be but lets hope that many people find a home in this game.

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