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Alpha Two testing is currently taking place five days each week. More information about Phase II and Phase III testing schedule can be found here
If you have Alpha Two, you can download the game launcher here, and we encourage you to join us on our Official Discord Server for the most up to date testing news.
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Re: A Small Amount of Feedback on Ranger - New for Alpha 2
I think i would have to agree with all these.
Here what i see with rangers
Excels at range combat = No, they get beaten by every class in range combat, fighters, tanks self sustain will cause them to win a straight up bow fight, bard and clerics can heal there way to victory in range and mages just demolish them with shear dmg
Excels at mobility = no not realy the only thing rangers have going for them in this department is vertical mobility every other melee class has more gao closers than ranger have with gap creating so it basicl ya melee fight with fighters anyway at that point even if u get range they pull bow ut and win anyway :P you can run away from a tank and cleric though but thats about it though.
basicly 0 CC in kit, you get a silence which is clunky to use and roots and dont do anything cause apparently u can just use a charge while rooted it seems and charge right through root field or beartraps and not get effected.
Marks definetly need changed the 1 in cooldown across all of them are brutal and no u shouldnt be able to cast all ur marks at once however i think using 1 mark should make the other marks have 10-20 second CD can use muiltipul in a fight but not all at once.
ranger currently loose every fight in a 1v1 situation against any class and can only relay function when there left alone in a fight but ur still better off having a mage instead since thye excel at area's where rangers not so much.
Yep the only way ranger even has a chance at winning a duel right now is if they get a free opener, which does not happen because Camo is useless for duels, ranger is so close to being good but also far away lol, things I would like to see would be something like a mark that heals you whilst it's on the target or a mark that the target damages it's self while they are marked or something interesting like this that would fix our no defensives problem and also make marks more than an average 8s per minute debuff
The thing that really needs to be addressed as you mentioned is rangers mobility, it is almost the worst out of all classes which makes no sense to me, blink goes twice as far as disengage, charge goes 3x as far, leap goes twice as far, tanks charge goes twice as far, bard can just put run you it really does feel bad, also air strike sucks because it's not static like charge or disengage it roots you in place for 0.5s before it activates and is not reflexive
And to top it all off kiting is next to impossible with how combat works,we can't out range anyone and when we are attacking we are self snared
Chicago
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Re: What drew You to Ashes?
Class combinations, including multi-pet classes.
A dynamic node system that will allow each server to be unique. Some servers will be peaceful, some at war, most in between.
Ashes of Creation has the potential to become a Game of Thrones MMO, where through fighting, guile, and diplomacy, one person could control an entire server, with five metropolises, their vassal cities, and other kingdoms from cities and towns, with their vassal nodes.
A dynamic node system that will allow each server to be unique. Some servers will be peaceful, some at war, most in between.
Ashes of Creation has the potential to become a Game of Thrones MMO, where through fighting, guile, and diplomacy, one person could control an entire server, with five metropolises, their vassal cities, and other kingdoms from cities and towns, with their vassal nodes.
Re: What drew You to Ashes?
Originally ran across a stream from LoreForged late last year which got my interest.
Looking for something similar to the older MMOs plus more. I've played MMO's for the last 25+ years, and I'm looking forward to several things.
1. No fast travel. Everything seems like a D&D adventure as just going out gathering or exploring feels like a D&D campaign. When I'm out gathering, I see familiar characters often, and feels like I'm in a community of sorts, even though I don't group up.
2. Difficulty. I mainly solo (99%+), and I like the difficulty. I have to be aware of my surroundings and evaluate how to take on an encounter. I know there are some things I can never do while soloing, and I'm good with that.
3. PvX. I don't PvP, but once they fix the exploits, I believe "most" people that want to PvP will be taking part in the parts of the game that are specifically setup for PvP (Caravans, Guild Wars, Node Wars, etc.). I know there will some that will risk corruption, but I'm good with that. I'll just have to be more careful. Maybe eventually I'll take part in PvP...
I know I'm not the typical player. I have no desire to rush to max level, to gain lots of gold, to obtain the best items, or anything like that. I just explore, gather, process items, help others out when I run across them, and enjoy the game. There are a lot of things to fix (which I send a lot of bug reports), but I'm having a great time as it is now.
In a way, it's sort of the solo D&D type campaign I've wanted for a long time, and yet, still be able to interface with others when I want.
Looking for something similar to the older MMOs plus more. I've played MMO's for the last 25+ years, and I'm looking forward to several things.
1. No fast travel. Everything seems like a D&D adventure as just going out gathering or exploring feels like a D&D campaign. When I'm out gathering, I see familiar characters often, and feels like I'm in a community of sorts, even though I don't group up.
2. Difficulty. I mainly solo (99%+), and I like the difficulty. I have to be aware of my surroundings and evaluate how to take on an encounter. I know there are some things I can never do while soloing, and I'm good with that.
3. PvX. I don't PvP, but once they fix the exploits, I believe "most" people that want to PvP will be taking part in the parts of the game that are specifically setup for PvP (Caravans, Guild Wars, Node Wars, etc.). I know there will some that will risk corruption, but I'm good with that. I'll just have to be more careful. Maybe eventually I'll take part in PvP...
I know I'm not the typical player. I have no desire to rush to max level, to gain lots of gold, to obtain the best items, or anything like that. I just explore, gather, process items, help others out when I run across them, and enjoy the game. There are a lot of things to fix (which I send a lot of bug reports), but I'm having a great time as it is now.
In a way, it's sort of the solo D&D type campaign I've wanted for a long time, and yet, still be able to interface with others when I want.
Re: Marketplace
Guys please remember it has been stated this is a very bare bones system at the moment, much much more will follow. It was important to get some form of player markets up to see help the economy, I personally am thankful to have something and will be patient for more implementation.
Grinding Spots
Greetings Citizens, The current state of AoC when it comes to grinding locations like RoS, Steelbloom, Carphin and many more usually go like this. Your group finds a spot, and start farming. Another group tries to love in and ensues a DPS and Tag battle for dominance.
Now if the outcome doesn't please the losing group they for now( Soon to be fixed per Steven) resort to leashing mobs and trying to kill the other party.
The only other option is to flagged up, and show you would like to fight for the spot, however the current system dictates others will often not fight back in the hopes you go red and then attack.
I find this very annoying, and takes the fun out of what is supposed to be conflict. Going red is not the answer.
Do you believe these hot spot grinding areas should be flagged when you enter them allowing groups to fight for their spots or are you happy with the current system?
I know most would worry if part of these grind spots were flagged, then large guilds would enter and try to take over, this is a very real possibility and one I really don't have a solution for.
another possible solution would be to have a scribe create a scroll that would flag a area in a certain radius for a short period of time, anyone who came in that area to try and contest the grind spot would receive a warning that this spot is under contestation and will be flagged if they stay.
Just shooting idea's out here, but let me hear your thoughts about the current system, do you like it? if not how would you like to see it?
Thanks for reading!
Now if the outcome doesn't please the losing group they for now( Soon to be fixed per Steven) resort to leashing mobs and trying to kill the other party.
The only other option is to flagged up, and show you would like to fight for the spot, however the current system dictates others will often not fight back in the hopes you go red and then attack.
I find this very annoying, and takes the fun out of what is supposed to be conflict. Going red is not the answer.
Do you believe these hot spot grinding areas should be flagged when you enter them allowing groups to fight for their spots or are you happy with the current system?
I know most would worry if part of these grind spots were flagged, then large guilds would enter and try to take over, this is a very real possibility and one I really don't have a solution for.
another possible solution would be to have a scribe create a scroll that would flag a area in a certain radius for a short period of time, anyone who came in that area to try and contest the grind spot would receive a warning that this spot is under contestation and will be flagged if they stay.
Just shooting idea's out here, but let me hear your thoughts about the current system, do you like it? if not how would you like to see it?
Thanks for reading!
Re: The respawn is too high
It really does feel extremely fast, making it difficult to work your way in as a group of 8 to camp spots. I'm specifically thinking of Oakenbane keep, where mob density often means either pulling 2-3 mobs at once, or pulling 6, because if you're pulling to clear to an area, the mobs just respawn fast enough that you can't do any kind of pull/mob placement, you need to move up and fight on location, which means putting you near other mobs that might be pulled by proximity.
I've tanked level 1-21 phase 1, and 1-16 so far phase 2, lots of time spent in oakenbane, highwayman hills, sephillion, and steelbloom, and it often boils down to cramming 8 people into a corner, and then a worst, shooting a mob with a bow to drag it in. There's just enough mobs to keep people entertained, while not needing a puller.
I don't think this would be such an issue if mob density and placement was a bit more streamlined.
And fwiw I'm comparing this directly to Everquest. Everquest also had camps which often boiled down to sitting in your corner and killing things, the same as Ashes, but in Everquest, the role of a puller was integral, and keeping constant mobs on location was a skill. It was something to achieve, not something just happening by default.
I've tanked level 1-21 phase 1, and 1-16 so far phase 2, lots of time spent in oakenbane, highwayman hills, sephillion, and steelbloom, and it often boils down to cramming 8 people into a corner, and then a worst, shooting a mob with a bow to drag it in. There's just enough mobs to keep people entertained, while not needing a puller.
I don't think this would be such an issue if mob density and placement was a bit more streamlined.
And fwiw I'm comparing this directly to Everquest. Everquest also had camps which often boiled down to sitting in your corner and killing things, the same as Ashes, but in Everquest, the role of a puller was integral, and keeping constant mobs on location was a skill. It was something to achieve, not something just happening by default.
Fippy
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Re: The respawn is too high
I've only been to oakenbane keep once so far, but during my first experience I had the same feeling. There seemed to be no reason to actually explore the place, since we could just sit right near the entrance and have constant mobs to kill. I think if the respawn was a little longer, it would encourage groups to go deeper into the keep to maintain the mob up time.
On the flip side, when I was leveling at the cursed ruins near lionhold, I felt much more inclined to explore the whole place. This was probably due to multiple factors such as quests, events, quicker kill time (0-1 star mobs instead of 3 star), more players in general.
On the flip side, when I was leveling at the cursed ruins near lionhold, I felt much more inclined to explore the whole place. This was probably due to multiple factors such as quests, events, quicker kill time (0-1 star mobs instead of 3 star), more players in general.
Re: What are we testing now?
Taleof2Cities wrote: »MY first suggestion is to upgrade the xp and cash we earn with a kill massively. Why you want to bore alpha 2 players who help testing with endless grinding is pointless.
Grinding levels is playing the game … not testing game systems.
If you paid for an Alpha Key or Pre-order Pack just to grind to the level cap (and then claim there’s nothing to do) … you probably wasted your money.
That's the problem though, if you want to test the other systems you HAVE to grind levels first. Want to test your class abilities for bugs? You have to level up. Want to test the crafting system? You have to grind for mats and gold which is the same grind you do to level up. Want to test things like node wars or caravans? You have to level up the nodes which involves grinding.
As it stands, everything in the game revolves around grinding mobs, either to level up your character, level up the node or get materials to test the other parts of the game.
Marketplace
Yesterday I tried the marketplace the first time.
Friends warned me not to do it…but I did. And it was shocking.
We have these type of games now for round 25 years…this game is in dev for years and they shown this to the testers.
I know…I know…it’s not the real thing for sure…but then it’s even worse….give us the thing you want tested…and please remove this.
What we could have in my opinion should be something like this….
1) Player markets in each town…starting in Lion. Don’t let players drive for 20 minutes to reach one.
2) Each player should be able to add and take stuff to the market at the marketplace they visit.
Now for the fun….
Taking stuff off the market in a town you are not citizen off for at least 48 hours, means you pay a tax of 10% that goes to the town and player if the players is living in that town. Town gets 4% player 6%.
Taking stuff of the market the market in a town other then the one where the players who placed it on it lives gives another 10% extra tax…same way off splitting unless you do it from your own town the. The full 10% goes to the player.
This way people don’t have to drive in the little time they have to get stuff…and players who do want to travel get a discount.
Placing items on the market in your own time cost nothing when you are a citizen for at least 5 days.
Before that it cost 5% going to that town.
People with own house get to put stuff on the market always for free.
Put items on the market and let people search by item name, how rare it is or price range or so.
I know some hate it….but many people don’t have the play time to search the market for hours because search options don’t work. They want to play…fight mobs and players…not the marketmanager.
So….
Ashes of creation take down this market system fast and replace it with one that’s equal or better then we seen in the last 25 years.
Not one that’s the worst ever seen in a alpha or live game.
Friends warned me not to do it…but I did. And it was shocking.
We have these type of games now for round 25 years…this game is in dev for years and they shown this to the testers.
I know…I know…it’s not the real thing for sure…but then it’s even worse….give us the thing you want tested…and please remove this.
What we could have in my opinion should be something like this….
1) Player markets in each town…starting in Lion. Don’t let players drive for 20 minutes to reach one.
2) Each player should be able to add and take stuff to the market at the marketplace they visit.
Now for the fun….
Taking stuff off the market in a town you are not citizen off for at least 48 hours, means you pay a tax of 10% that goes to the town and player if the players is living in that town. Town gets 4% player 6%.
Taking stuff of the market the market in a town other then the one where the players who placed it on it lives gives another 10% extra tax…same way off splitting unless you do it from your own town the. The full 10% goes to the player.
This way people don’t have to drive in the little time they have to get stuff…and players who do want to travel get a discount.
Placing items on the market in your own time cost nothing when you are a citizen for at least 5 days.
Before that it cost 5% going to that town.
People with own house get to put stuff on the market always for free.
Put items on the market and let people search by item name, how rare it is or price range or so.
I know some hate it….but many people don’t have the play time to search the market for hours because search options don’t work. They want to play…fight mobs and players…not the marketmanager.
So….
Ashes of creation take down this market system fast and replace it with one that’s equal or better then we seen in the last 25 years.
Not one that’s the worst ever seen in a alpha or live game.
Roanator
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