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Hat's off to all gentlemen players!
Do you have a memorial encounter playing video games?
Back in 2003 when PlanetSide was released it was almost unheard of gals playing FPS type games. Below was the type of reaction from guys in my outfit when they heard my voice for the first time. Females didn't want to be harassed by little boys so they didn't admit to their gender. It was in an amazing all male outfit who treated me like a lady and wouldn't put up with outsiders who didn't. Hat's off to all gentlemen players!
Back in 2003 when PlanetSide was released it was almost unheard of gals playing FPS type games. Below was the type of reaction from guys in my outfit when they heard my voice for the first time. Females didn't want to be harassed by little boys so they didn't admit to their gender. It was in an amazing all male outfit who treated me like a lady and wouldn't put up with outsiders who didn't. Hat's off to all gentlemen players!
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I only see people in two categories.
Karthos and Not Karthos
Irl I don't usually talk about my gaming passion until recently - and I was chatting to a colleague and he was like - I didn't know you liked all that stuff cos you look like a normal girl xD and I'm like okaaaaaaaaaaaay xD
My first true mmo experience I played a male character and I confused a lot of people because I'm female but made some amazing friends that I'm still friendly with today
I've also had really bad experiences in which some players have sent extremely inappropriate images of themselves to me and have said stuff that send shivers down my spine, but - thanks to all the gentlemen out there that see me for being a person that loves games and nothing more
On the OP, I really appreciate this. I remember, when I first wandered in to the world of gaming, getting taken under the wing of one particular player. He didn't care that I was male or female, he only cared that I wanted to learn to play my class better. He worked with me, lots, and when I dove into the world of healing, he worked with me more.
He was in his teens when he did this, and he's still one of the greatest people I know. He's kinda an adopted son to me, but from a very early age, he's had more wisdom and compassion than so many people I've met. Thanks, @CylverRayne, for letting me remember this important young man in this way!
CptBrownBeard You sound like a true gentleman!
It's also not worth your time to sink to another's level whose not following this same guideline. And never be afraid to speak up when you feel something needs to be said.
Ok, it's impossible for me to be serious for this long. Back to hijinks.
PS- I'm Epic Loots
Even a woman can play from the kitchen since wifi exists
Are there discrepancies in gender statistics for some things, sure, but don't be part of the barrier to entry for others who are the same gender by screaming look at me. No validation from me, sorry.
I treat people like people. I strive to not treat females and males equally.
People are so incredulous because back in the day, the vast majority of female characters in MMORPGs were other dudes.
Which didn't stop some male players from treating female avatars as if they were helpless, mentally handicapped players.
I was shocked the first time I encountered boys who wanted to shower my female avatar with fee stuff and explain how the game worked - and the couple of boys who demanded I cyber with them.
In my experience, some players are extremely rude, some players are extremely polite and the vast majority of players are somewhere in the middle.
Most players have been friendly.
If nothing else my post shows equality in how people, male or female are perceived according to their actions and words. That goes for you also.
I think these days females in games are normal and accepted and I do not really see the point in particularly thanking males for being accepting. I would much rather thank all the people here in general for being awesome and accepting, really enjoying the community feeling here
If they want me to treat them like a lady then the only thing I'll treat them to is by block list. Leave that stuff for your significant other and just kill that dragon before it breathes bad dragon fire.
If guys are treating you differently (cleaning up their language, avoiding certain topics or jokes, being overly nice or understanding) because you're a female then they still consider you an outsider. The number of female gamers I've seen that are okay with normal guy talk is not zero, but it's also low enough that it's safer to treat female gamers as outsiders still. The difference between the past and now is that instead being 'circus freak' outsiders they're 'I hope I don't say anything they don't like and get reported/banned' outsiders.
I need a definition of normal guy talk. I treat people how I want to be treated. The idea that any large group of gamers will react the same to a set of circumstances is preposterous. I try to ensure that no one is made to feel uncomfortable, whether because of age, background or anything else. If I do not know the other gamers in a group then I am probably using manners that I would use in an impersonal public setting. Once I get to know individuals I may adjust my behaviour but ensuring that I do not allow anyone to feel uncomfortable intentionally. I make a base assumption that everyone has a significant other because it just makes socializing easier and to be honest it is none of my business. Regardless of the setting this just makes the groups I am in more efficient in any circumstances.
Within minutes someone would come by and show me how to play and inevitably give me a ton of money and/or some valuable gear. I'd then drop that off, log onto my main, and pick it up. (There was nothing as sophisticated as mailing things to alts or shared bank space back then.) I pulled this scam numerous times.
I'm not proud of those acts. I took advantage of (presumably) well-meaning players and it wasn't clever, just cruel and greedy. I wouldn't do anything like that these days. But I think it shows how attitudes were back then (if they're different now). I tried the same tactic with a male character not pretending to be a girl and it didn't have the same result.
My 2 cents. To each there own though.. I try not to judge people.
'Normal guy talk' does not meet a strictly defined set of criteria. It's only usage is to denote the change in language that any astute observer can see in a group when a female enters the room that does not ever occur when a male enters the room. Whether that's not talking about certain subjects, cleaning up the language, or just being uncharacteristically (compared to their 'normal guy talk' persona) nice/chivalrous.
Honestly, never given much thought on it - never needed to.
If the ladies want to play ... Why nag about it ?
And honestly surprised of the " Tales " I'm reading
( looking at you @Diura & @Isende )
I'm not being mean, but I'm not going to white-night cuck like other mic droppers here. You want equality, then you should be appreciative that I'm being truthful with you. So let's be honest here, your post was not about praising people on their merits, it was simply about you looking for validation and pats on the back for finding a group of guys that treats you very gentlemanly. Here is hint, real friends aren't always gentlemen or pretend to be, and they certainly don't need to post about it.
Thank you for the definition. I understand that from both directions. I was a member of a few teams where the talk would change dramatically when a coach would walk into the room. I also managed people and both loved and hated the fact that the conversation changed when I entered the room. In both circumstances I just accepted the fact that it was for efficiency. We did not want to waste our coaches time trying to talk over us and hopefully it was the same feeling when I walked into a room with the groups that I managed.
I know those examples are not similar contexts to gaming, well maybe the teams. But I tend to make allowances for the individual. I will use myself as an example. I am an extreme introvert. I will stay silent in voice for long periods of time. It is not uncommon for people to forget I am there and then be shocked when I join a conversation. That has been mistaken by others as being upset by the conversation. No, I just live by a rule, if I have nothing useful to say, I say nothing. Luckily, over time that was usually understood over time. All I know is that I was grateful for the space to be myself and I try to grant that to everyone.