If ONE system of AoC would fail or be very bad, which would it be?

Marzzo

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Aardvark

They absolutly have to get corruption right. It matters to much to people on both sides to not get exactly right

bloodprophet

Why must one fail?
I don't understand the need to be negative.

Botagar

bloodprophet wrote: »

Why must one fail?
I don't understand the need to be negative.

Don't understand enough about the game to comment on the OP, but blodprophet these kinds of questions get asked in a QA process to highlight critical and/or vulnerable parts of system. It's better to uncover things earlier in the development process rather than later.
I don't find this to be negative at all. Something negative would be "AoC is going to fail because XYZ".

darthaden

None will fail. All will most likely need to be tweaked during alpha and beta. With the amount of players who will be testing the game between now and launch theres no reason any of the systems shouldn't be ironed out before launch.

Marzzo

bloodprophet wrote: »

Why must one fail?
I don't understand the need to be negative.

Multiple will fail. and multiple will succed. That is the way of life and you need to accept it or get ready for dissapointment.

I wonder which one you would guess to fail! By answearing this, you will help the developers see problems they might have missed! In the end, giving devs insight, will make a better game.

Stop being so negative about this post

Marzzo

darthaden wrote: »

None will fail. All will most likely need to be tweaked during alpha and beta. With the amount of players who will be testing the game between now and launch theres no reason any of the systems shouldn't be ironed out before launch.

Many systems will fail. Many will be removed, and many will be reworked. But, many will also succeed and improve! If you need to guess one system that will fail, which one would it be? Let the devs here it know so they might have a chance to prepare!

tugowar

Guys, it’s called critical failure points. It’s a very normal analysis.

Fluid combat

Marzzo

tugowar wrote: »

Guys, it’s called critical failure points. It’s a very normal analysis.

Fluid combat

Yea, fluid combat is extremly hard to get right. The problem is making it feel engaging, fun and challenging while still not feeling clunky or restrictive.

bloodprophet

Tough to say with out trying them out yet. But hybrid combat seems like a tall order making both sides work and be viable with out one side being useless or so bad the time invested in building them is wasted.
But I think they have a lot of talent and experience and will figure it out.

Aardvark

Well one real worry is I have never seen a mmo with 10 well balanced classes let alone 64. If they get 64 classes very well balanced they are the best devs in history

lunarsky

The subclass system actually feeling unique with 64 classes is probably my biggest concern as well as balancing that even for PVE group content. Hybrid combat is the second one.

Namil

For me classes are a pretty major thing, they need to feel like their own identity and actually have unique looking spells. For example, the augment difference on a spell between a Mage-Fighter and a Mage-Rogue shouldn't just be a switch from a red to a purple particle effect.

Lincoln Hawk

No such thing as perfectly balanced MMO that revolves around classes, Blizzard doesn't manage it with their huge budget.
Something that people need to just accept.
But yea class diversity and the augments actually adding enough difference to each primary class as Namil pointed out is something I really hope for.

George_Black

I hope it doesnt, but I see the class augmentation system fail.
I think the animations will be very generic and so the meta will be very prominent, with very few of the 64 combos being viable for anything other than RP and solo exp till lv 25-30.

If I am not wrong, I rly hope to see a switch away from the combo system, in favour of solid classes with unique animations and identity, essentially adding another 7 classes to the 8 primiry, and scraping the 64 combinations, hopefully before A2.

HazardNumberSeven

Lincoln Hawk wrote: »

No such thing as perfectly balanced MMO that revolves around classes, Blizzard dont manage it with their huge budget.
Something that people need to just accept.
But yea class diversity and the augments actually adding enough difference to each primary class as Namil pointed out is something I really hope for.

Blizzard doesn't balance, and wouldn't know how even if they wanted to.
Blizzard is famous for their inability to balance anything, ever.
Entire classes and specs can remain totally broken and non-viable for years, in a game where you subscribe to play you're told to wait a few years it will be fixed next expansion, it's a joke. A disgusting joke.
They're successful for the casual accessibility of their games, and their very talented artists.

As for the 64 classes, I am expecting it to be more like 8 classes with just a lot of variety and customization.

Perfect and permanent balance isn't possible, you're right, but balance is possible. It needs to be maintained, and it also depends what kind of balance we're going for. Balance around group content and rock/paper/scissors I think is a good way to go about it.

Jubilum

This is something that we don't have a lot of information on just yet, but the economy is a failure the game could be doomed. Economy is kind of a catch all for gathering, crafting, and market. I am a Capitalist, all about supply and demand, but I have found that in most games the market ends up getting out of control. IS needs the ability to tweak the economy if a particular server starts to go wrong. Buy this I mean where on server 1, one piece of silver ore cost 1 gold, but on server 2 it is listed for 10K gold. This alone would cause me to start server hopping. They will need a full time employee to track every server for anomalies and adjust as needed.

Netory

lunarsky wrote: »

The subclass system actually feeling unique with 64 classes is probably my biggest concern as well as balancing that even for PVE group content. Hybrid combat is the second one.

My expectations of how the subclass system will actually work:
Fighter/Cleric swings sword = Shiny Golden Glow!
Fighet/Mage swings sword = Fiery Sparky Effect!
Fighter/Rogue swings sword = Shadowy Smoke stuff so scary!

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rodzor

The combat is the big one that will make or break it all, all the other systems seem super solid as far as the design direction Sandal God is projecting.

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