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Gold Farmers/Botters/Cheaters (Report System)

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  • MerekMerek Member
    From what I've read, maybe Intrepid should just range ban Asia and South America then?


    /s
  • VyrakaVyraka Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    What you are proposing sounds resource intensive and a little far fetched for a game this big.

    I play a text based roleplaying game called DragonRealms that is monitored for cheating, foul language, and being out of character. However, there is only 400-700 people on at any given time.

    It will be difficult to monitor thousands of people on multiple servers every time someone gets ganked and responds by saying "xxxx you". And honestly, do we really want to fault the player for that response.

    I'm not fond of foul language, but that's not something I want the game masters to police. What irks me more is when people start joking about pedophilia and incest. Yet, I just want the situation dealt with - muted, banned for 24 hours, whatever. I don't need a public record of when Joe Schmoe was drunk off his butt and said some stupid thing.

    I think public shaming is a horrible idea because it has the potential for all sorts of abuse.
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  • prymortalprymortal Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    AOC needs a Report option that also Auto Blacklists the player reported.
    - All games do having to do 2 things puts you off reporting in the first place.

    Also I'd assume active GM's will look into reports as they come in (if poss, if not back check logs) like "we" do in other games. Having a report based reputation system from experience with GM'ing in other games just means Streamers get banned & Gold Sellers also funny enough find ways to make GM's jobs hell with this system. Since AOC is hiring people with experience i'm sure these wont be issues.
  • SylvanarSylvanar Member
    edited September 2020
    eXsZhen wrote: »
    Cheaters must shamed, end of story - or at least for a certain a mount of time...then record clears

    I did not know humans could retain memories with a time stamp and then decide to simply delete these memories from our minds after setting a timer for however long someone decides that person should be punished for.

    Or are you saying that lets say Player A did this 'power levelling' thing, was reported and punished for 1 month by the GMs. You go on hating him - cuz I dont see any other reaction coming from you - for that period of 1 month. Now that the punishment time is over, can you 'just' go back to being his friend? Because you know, record is clear.
    eXsZhen wrote: »
    because this mechanic is EXTREMELY important in further reducing such behavior. In fact, "public shaming" or i like to call this "reputation score" must be mandatory, players always looking for short cuts/scam/cheat/steal etc in a game. This includes paying other players to play on their accounts. For example, the demand for "leveling services" is so high that "professional power levelers" have been developed. These power levelers are paid to play on players accounts, giving astronomical advantage, such as two power levels farming an account 24/7 for months...For example when a player killing mobs in one area for days on end "without sleep" aka two paid powers leveler from different IP address etc and then another real honest players comes along notices the pattern decides to report that player, they should be notified if this was or wasn't the case and if it was the case, the cheating account name and "reputation score" must be publicly published.

    You should go to China and experience this "reputation score" in real life as they have some sort of social rating system similar to that one episode in black mirror.

    I dont think I have read a more toxic comment or post till now on this forum.

    Edit: So toxic that you had to change it from post to a comment and modify the post itself.
    Edit: Do post your score here since you seem to be such a fan of public reputation scores.
    "Suffer in silence"
  • SylvanarSylvanar Member
    edited September 2020
    Short cuts - So someone comes up with some ingenious way to earn in game currency - I dont mean third party help, bot - I mean some trading thing, buy/sell or farm/sell some much needed mat, how is that report worthy?

    Scam/Steal - That is the name of the game. There are alliances and alliances lead to betrayal.

    "If we approach the castle siege and we've destroyed the walls and we're in the throne room and we're about to cast on the penultimate thing and I at this time am just so excited from what's happening that I'm like "screw it I'm gonna go for it". It's gonna be mine. I'm gonna take the taxes for the next month. I'm gonna take all the gear from the castle. I'm gonna take everything... We kind of want that political intrigue to be present in the game." - Steven Shariff. Check 'Zergs' in AoC wiki page.

    What is the "appropriate" punishment for this person now?

    This is not the real world. There is no law and you are not the lawmaker.

    The punishable offence in a game are:
    - Hacking - which should lead to permanent ban. Period.
    - Botters
    - Gold farmer

    I dont presume to decide what the punishment for the other 2 offence should be cuz I dont have experience with these offenders. Botters is a more serious offence, similar to hacking actually but gold farmers are putting in the effort, so I dont have much issue with them and will have faith in GMs to take appropriate action.

    We are there to play the game, not police it.
    "Suffer in silence"
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