Mag7spy wrote: » JustVine wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » @NiKr @Azherae Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDc2ppcOi8 Stun and direction doesn't matter as much what we are talking about is a taunt and not being able to have control of camera during the duration. Yeah.... For someone that complains that others don't read or can't understand what you are saying so much, you certainly seem to struggle yourself here, and make a ton of assumptions on top of it. Unfortunately for you this means that your constant 'you don't read what I write!' tirades make you seem not very credible and your 'counter-arguments' even more ignorable. So once again from the top.... "Leap to a nearby enemy hero, forcing them to face Countess and Suppress them for .75 seconds. After the duration, Countess deals magical damage (+10% of the target's maximum health) to the target and heals herself for 50% of the damage dealt." Jumping into the conversation that moves from insults and you trying to move it back to insults? Actually golden award for you. Did you really not watch the video I linked, did you also not read what I wrote? If you are going to jump into the conversation with reading insults please read the post you are quoting on it, kind of embarrassing. The move is a CC that makes your character face the character. Being hard CC (stun) is not a taunt (cc).
JustVine wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » @NiKr @Azherae Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDc2ppcOi8 Stun and direction doesn't matter as much what we are talking about is a taunt and not being able to have control of camera during the duration. Yeah.... For someone that complains that others don't read or can't understand what you are saying so much, you certainly seem to struggle yourself here, and make a ton of assumptions on top of it. Unfortunately for you this means that your constant 'you don't read what I write!' tirades make you seem not very credible and your 'counter-arguments' even more ignorable. So once again from the top.... "Leap to a nearby enemy hero, forcing them to face Countess and Suppress them for .75 seconds. After the duration, Countess deals magical damage (+10% of the target's maximum health) to the target and heals herself for 50% of the damage dealt."
Mag7spy wrote: » @NiKr @Azherae Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDc2ppcOi8 Stun and direction doesn't matter as much what we are talking about is a taunt and not being able to have control of camera during the duration.
Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have.
NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim
Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt..
NiKr wrote: » All YT videos are fucking "ohhh, so you want to main this character?! well here's how to do it!" and not a single damn one about how to beat the shit out of that character
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed.
Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns?
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place.
Azherae wrote: » Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care.
Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place. You didn't even ask this question. But fine. Countess' Ult will Force Target you even if you cleanse or resist the Stun or Root. The Forced Facing is a separate and intentional effect. EDIT: I should clarify properly, this ability is 'Suppress' not Stun or Root, which acts differently under certain specific conditions, if this is somehow important to conclude this... Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care.
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place. You didn't even ask this question. But fine. Countess' Ult will Force Target you even if you cleanse or resist the Stun or Root. The Forced Facing is a separate and intentional effect. EDIT: I should clarify properly, this ability is 'Suppress' not Stun or Root, which acts differently under certain specific conditions, if this is somehow important to conclude this... Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care. Does this skill have lingering camera controls while victim can move their character.
NiKr wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care. I honestly could not give fewer fucks about info or details. I literally just wanna see how a single damn game applied the taunt effect in an action combat game. I want to see it from the victim's pov. I just want to see the practical application. All this arguing about stupid stuff does nothing.
Azherae wrote: » Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I still haven't figured out how to engage with Mag and I'm sure it will be better served if I just don't do that at all. I hope Mag finds the information you want whenever he's done with whatever 'reaction' or 'proof' he comes up with that my experiences are incorrect.
Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place. You didn't even ask this question. But fine. Countess' Ult will Force Target you even if you cleanse or resist the Stun or Root. The Forced Facing is a separate and intentional effect. EDIT: I should clarify properly, this ability is 'Suppress' not Stun or Root, which acts differently under certain specific conditions, if this is somehow important to conclude this... Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care. Does this skill have lingering camera controls while victim can move their character. Yes.
Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place. You didn't even ask this question. But fine. Countess' Ult will Force Target you even if you cleanse or resist the Stun or Root. The Forced Facing is a separate and intentional effect. EDIT: I should clarify properly, this ability is 'Suppress' not Stun or Root, which acts differently under certain specific conditions, if this is somehow important to conclude this... Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care. Does this skill have lingering camera controls. Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Azherae wrote: » NiKr wrote: » Mag7spy wrote: » Why are you talking about a stun skill, this is not a taunt.. That video is cool and all, but I'm trying to see the effect from the pov of the victim Actually yeah that might be easier @Mag7spy, can you find a SMITE video from the perspective of someone being taunted/Forced Targeted for NiKr? I don't wanna get caught up in the specifics of Countess' forced target so let's just use the one you know. Nothing worse than arguing with someone about experiences they don't even have. Naa im here for this, the conversation we are talking about is a taunt not a hard CC where you can't move and the discussion is more towards action of course. I'm not going to jump around everywhere so lets settle this first. The ultimate skill (you can use once every so often) does not allow you to move. There for it is not a taunt where you need to worry about being forced to have your camera moving towards the taunt target over a duration while still needing to manage the "WASD" keys. You are the one that brought this up in the discussion so we can finish it instead of doing it half assed. There's no way to finish it. You literally can't comprehend it enough and you haven't played the game, you just jumped to a conclusion. You're just not listening to what I'm saying and even when I try to drop the thing you want to continue? Can you think of a reason why they would bother adding the Forced Facing if the move already stuns? I have played the game and unlocked a few characters though not extensively lmao. Who is saying what is more important CC wise right now, why are you making assumptions. I'm going to say this in the most basic way so you can understand. "If the effect is not a taunt that controls your camera as well as lingering camera controls it is not relevant to the discussion.....The discussion is not about what is more important CC wise." This is why I linked the video. Please answer the question cause i want to hear it from your own words. Does this ultimate skill effect have lingering camera controls while not hard stun or rooting you in place. You didn't even ask this question. But fine. Countess' Ult will Force Target you even if you cleanse or resist the Stun or Root. The Forced Facing is a separate and intentional effect. EDIT: I should clarify properly, this ability is 'Suppress' not Stun or Root, which acts differently under certain specific conditions, if this is somehow important to conclude this... Actually NiKr you probably have enough information now for if you even care. Does this skill have lingering camera controls while victim can move their character. Yes. Then looks like we both need to find video links for this @NiKr I'm looking to try to find one, but like i said in these games it is skill based and we are talking about a taunt that is not skill based on tab target leaning in application.
Mag7spy wrote: » I'm looking to try to find one, but like i said in these games it is skill based and we are talking about a taunt that is not skill based on tab target leaning in application.
Mag7spy wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC07LNGirPQ 1:34 you can see how they lose control of the camera, though this one is stronger since they can't cast skills and such or more with "WASD" it is a forced attack. If they were moving away from them or not knowing hey were there they would be flipped around and forced to move to the target. In larger fights with a lot going on you would be pulled constantly with that kind of effect going on in a mmorpg sense. Even more so with the range that would be on the taunt.
NiKr wrote: » Oh, and as a side point, thank you for finding that video. I appreciate it.