primitive/ basic (NON MODERN) guns should be one of the first expansion additions

Rookk

For starters just so there is NO confusion, what i mean by 'first expansion additions' is that after launch, there will obviously be expansions that add new stuff and i bet we will see crossbows return as well in a similar style AFTER launch to avoid scope creep.

Now as for the idea, personally ik people have this really weird hate for ANY firearms in fantasy even tho irl, blackpowder has existed for A LONG time and while guns didnt get made until a while after blackpowder, partially thats cuase there wasnt a need for them and what they were capable of at THE VERY beginning wasnt worth the cost to many people. Now as for the specifics around how and why i feel it makes A LOT more sense to see basic firearms in fantasy is cause in a world where you can create enchantments to create fire by using some invisible energy much akin to air like 'mana' or some other magic source AND even perhaps do things like have another enchantment create solid air or ice and than imbue an enchantment that makes it a lot stronger and prevents melting to than make it possible to fire by triggering the fire rune and firing off the ice bullet really just makes it so honestly, there is no reason why a world where such a thing is possible, that WOULDNT happen ESPECIALLY when there is tons of monsters out there that wanna kill you and your whole family but you dont have the time, money, or maybe even ability flat out to learn to wield a sword that with the power of a true swordmaster behind it and some poweful enchantments on it could probably outclass ANY gun or bow made of the hair and bones of a dragon that a truly strong archer could wield in such a manner where they could blow away another dragons head with a single enchanted arrow. honestly i could imagine guns being the 'STRONG as a base but unless you devote a lot of time, money, and have the knowhow yourself, they will never be worth anything in the face of the truly strong' type weapon with crossbows being the inbetween with bolts still needing to be made but because of that, they can be made out of VERY strong matierials AND have more than what are basically enchantment shavings to boost their strength as opposed to those ice bullets i mentioned.

Basically you could have a flintlock style pistol that takes some time to charge between shots but is as a base pretty good and easy to use with perhaps people who could go down a skill line that would be added along side these firearms which would be 'artificing' and take up your artisan role could use more specific guns aside from the ones ANYONE can use like those basic flintlocks which say a swashbuckling pirate fighter who spends their time on the sea could use a sword in one hand for when close range combat breaks out and have the pistol for more medium range engagements without havning to devote anything to make it good. Honestly it could be fun being an artificer which could be a branching path from enchantment so you need to be an enchanter to than specialize further and become and artificer or maybe even be BOTH a enchanter and blacksmith which upon reaching high enough levels in them (proly not max) you get access to spend the rest of your levels as a artificer so you would be a ok enchanter and blacksmith but your real specialty would be guns, bombs, automatons perhaps powered by magic like golems but made from special alloys and enchantments that allow them to be fully automanous companions.

Rookk

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i dunno why? they don't want shapeshifting abilities too.

btw the first primitive weapon missing is fist weapon or bare fist weapon skill tree (i miss a brawler class and barbarian).

hell tbf on the shapeshifting one, i also asked about that but it sounded like when an acutal dev responded that the issue there was a technical one.

hum it does not look good for the game. it's a common abilitie in many games and they developped Monster Coin so it's weird.

well the issue from the sound of it moreso sounded like if i had to guess, it wasnt orignally in their plans and RIGHT NOW it would be too hard to add without changing things and also my suggestion was kinda more like demiurge from the show overlord if you know him where you shapeshift parts of your body like giving yourself massive sharp claws that take the place of your weapon or wings that allow for in this case, quick dashes or perhaps that hover ability i remember i think talk about possibly being a thing where wings could give ya the same effect or a tail that allows you to weave in some powerful tail swipe attacks and etc. basically a lot of things flat out cant and wont be done rn because they dont wanna risk scope creep during the pre release phase. thats why most of my suggestions i make, i preface by saying they should only be added in expansions after release if they aint being worked on rn.