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Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
Fat Sliders, Pompadores, and Green-Leaf....
Tyranthraxus
Member, Alpha Two
Am super-excited to get my hands on the character-creator tools.
How liberal do y'all think we'll get to be? I know we're all supposed to be heroes and what-not - but yours truly wouldn't mind seeing some 300+ lbs toons walking around.
Am thinking Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are about the only fat heroes currently active, in American Society. Shouldn't we be able to be fat, in-game?
Or is fat just not epic?
How liberal do y'all think we'll get to be? I know we're all supposed to be heroes and what-not - but yours truly wouldn't mind seeing some 300+ lbs toons walking around.
Am thinking Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin are about the only fat heroes currently active, in American Society. Shouldn't we be able to be fat, in-game?
Or is fat just not epic?
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Always found intrepid stance on it comical in that perspective.
wrong
There is different types of chest shapes and pectoral muscle shapes. Women still have pectorals under their breasts which compose of mammary glands then different types of tissues ranging from fat and fibre glandular.
Has nothing to do with sexualisation.
What does muscles underneath breast has anything to do with an in-game slider? Unless you're looking to create a female bodybuilder in-game taking Anavar and Test with visible chest muscles, your point makes no sense for a chest area slider for females.
Isn't it currently IS's position that we *will* have chest-sliders?
No weird skin colors like blue,purple,yellow. (Ofc if you are an orc or vek but not dwarf or humans)
No distorted body shapes, like super disproportionate legs to upper body or super tiny arms.
No overly obese characters, druid in d4 was maximum fatness I think.
No dick sliders or huge boobs, thats just weird.
Why I think it should be fairly restricted is because I don't take the game serious if they are too lenient with it. Feels bad and non immersive otherwise.
Oh, and I would prefer that each race have a distinct look and can't mimic other races too closely (Like making a vek look like a human for example).
... you should probably learn more about human anatomy.
Just so we're clear and this thread doesn't turn into a bunch of muppets trying to challenge me from the peanut gallery... (not that you are @Tyranthraxus )
I'm not saying anything negative about sliders or body types. There is many differences and components to a chest from skeletal, muscular, fat, shape etc which is quite different from person to person. Two people of similar body types can do the same exercises , weight amount etc and their developmental results can look quite differently due to things like genetics.
I was just making the point of how comical it is that Intrepid didn't want "boob" sliders because of body shaming and sexualisation meanwhile the same can be said hypocritically about not allowing it within reason as that can be perceived as the same thing.
Why I said it has nothing to do with sexualisation. People can see anything as sexual as we are all aware of these days due to the internet.
Where are you getting that from though? Did they say that way back when it started? Ever since I really started reading up on things from 2020 or so, it's always been either "no comment" and later on " we'll have boob sliders". And I've seen all the old dev streams too, where it wasn't mentioned either (I think).
The threads on these forums and things the dev's had said in video's. I would not make shit up. I've watched them all too. I recall steven mentioning something about it and saying it was something they put into the hands the art team and females in regards to something about being comfortable working on it. Brought up in several "female armor" conversations too.
No worries
It's why I said the slider should be within reason for that specific option. I never said anything about sexualisation or over-sexualisation until someone decided to jump to that conclusion thinking it was the valid point for the purpose of the post. Though I will point out that it is a high fantasy game and dressing up is the design goal. The looks of armour types and weapons don't really depict anything other than aesthetics for the most part. It's more about the stats and transmogrification/costumes.
Never said anything about stiletto wearing bikini mages.
You sound so angry and sassy little one. Count to 10. My mom always says that helps
Not angry at all.
To what extent depends on what the art team can make look good. All the different armors have to look good and not be weirdly stretched, for example.
also, one of the best duo's. Your picture reminded me of it.
We've also seen a slider for Crotch in the Ashes Character Creator demo, so...
Some of the best DPS players I've seen have their Orc's character sliders all the way to the right.
So, heroes can (indeed) be "big-boned".
From what I've seen of the character creator so far, Ashes should be no different.
No reason male characters can't be obese or jacked. With all portions of anatomy adjustable. Make them your own fantasy.
Meanwhile do the same thing with females.
There is no reasonable or logical excuse why you shouldn't be able to. A decent representation should exist in-game that mimics real world understanding of anatomy, and reflects personal and racial preference.
Sexualization comes from the person, and or the "style" of the gear/clothes.
Aye, SWTOR allowed fat-ness, though their character creator is a joke, compared to modern ones.
Heheh - I still remember a player named "Diabeeto" - whose primary RP was that his blue-skinned Twi'lek with the fat body-type had diabetes.
Hello friend, muppet here just enjoying some peanuts... Have you considered multiple replies/quotes per post instead of posting multiple times in a row?
Side note: im willing to share my peanuts~
Verra has distinct player character races - which will limit specific parameters accordingly.
As a woman who has played games during her entire life (speaking for myself and my female gamer friends in this): bring that chest slider!
Women, like men, comes in all shapes and sizes and it'd be nice to have that reflected in the game. I really do not see the issue in certain people (no matter their irl gender) making female characters with big breasts. Like honestly - who cares?
And just a fun observation I've made during these years of online gaming: many of the most "sexualized" characters I've ever seen in online games have been the avatars of women. Believe it or not - sexuality is a part of many women's "power fantasy" (as we apparently call it when men play muscular, handsome characters).... A phenomena which is also very easy to notice if you play DnD with women. (And I happen to be doing that as well.)
... I mean, don't take my word for it: go into the first BG3 group that you can find and take a look at the modded clothes/styles most women there use. If you can handle the Astarion thirst, that is. xd
(TL;DR) Point is: sliders for chest areas is all fine. I have never, ever known a female gamer that gets upset with them - quite the opposite, most appreciate the customization option.
In general - the more sliders the better! (As long as they are within the appropriate body standards for each race!)