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wow there is finally a races and classes page on here
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I think you just need to use your imagination more and keep an open mind, I mean people don't always fight over just skin colour it’s usually outside factors, such as religion, politics and power even being afraid of what they don’t know.
Again it’s a fantasy world as well as game so having logical explanations for everything when we can’t even explain our own true existence irl doesn’t make sense. People are allowed to have mixed skin colours or traits regardless of where they’re from in-game, and like I said if you can explain the logic or origin of magic to me then fine. However until that point it will all just be godly divine intervention in order to explain this fantasy world. I wouldn’t paint everything by so black and white as you are as that’s not how things work.
You are returning through a portal into a magical land besieged by corruption bad energy, and you fight against this bad energy as an opposing force or potentially good energy. The difference between good or evil is just two opposing energies however how do you judge someone to be good or evil that’s based on perception plus your understanding. Everyone has a different perception, motivation or understandings so until you realise that you can’t paint everything black, white or grey.
I see absolutely zero problems with this "issue" in AOC. I love lore, so an in-game background on this topic would be nice but not obligatory.
All this applies only if people in here or comment sections on other platforms are concerned in good faith. But it would be silly of me to think that.
On an actual topic of this thread:
New art is done in poor quality. The old one was much better and showcased factions and cultures much better. Disappointing tbh.
On Verra, Gods do exist and the Gods truly created the inhabitants of Verra.
You'll notice that Tulnar and Elves also do not exist in realit, but on Verra were also created by the Gods.
"Lazy writing", ironically, is the laziest of critiques.
For sure, they will be able to have light grey to white hair. Will they be able to have blonde hair or auburn hair - I dunno. For all we know now, Niküa might be able to have blue or purple or pink hair.
A lot of people debate that. I'm indifferent.
How is it a lazy critique? If the extent of your explanation of something is "just because", there isn't exactly a plethora of things to critique.
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Using my imagination would involve fleshing out all of the reasons the different races are the way they are. Not settling for vague explanations that could instead be great stories
Actually,
do You have any Idea what for a brilliant thing You just wrote ?
YEEEEEEEEEESSS !!! It can be explained with "this" !! That for Example the Kea'lar, Vealune - and all the other Races, had just one look before they evacuated to Mundus.
Then when they returned, they had more Variety of different Shades and Colors of Skin. People could use this as an Explanation.
If we are honest : People being able to make a "black Kae'lar" is only there because Sir Steven and his mighty Crew want to please all those People who would shriek and cry Racism otherwise.
To bad for those People that Kae'lar won't have black (african) Building-Looks, huh ??
I imagine the Nikua Dwarves having very african~ish Building Looks. Why ? Because well -> tropic, right ? Africa is the most tropic Continent i think and the Nikua are centered around the tropic Beach/Caribbean Biome-Look regarding their Houses.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
✓ Guild is " Balderag's Garde " for now. (German)
"Lazy writing" is typically the critique of someone who just doesn't like the explanations given.
Its just as dull due to it being pretty much the same thing. "Instead of reasoning, it was just a divine decision". Again, arguing that there should be less expansive lore is a really odd stance.
The "just because"(which is exactly what this defense of the writing is [no matter the amount of protestation]) is more than enough to critique. Also, the Tulnar lore counters your "the Gods made it so" argument, in addition to the numerous in-game examples of evolutionary biology,genetics in taming/breeding, etc. It's not often one sees others taking a Creationism stance in a world of blatant evolution,but here we are.It's almost as ludicrous as one claiming that "bad writing" isn't valid literary criticism; it is, in fact, foundational to the field.
No one stated that Creationism inherently negates Evolution.
The Creation of the Tulnar is not absent influence of magic and the Gods.
And... we're done.
And it provides plenty of avenues for backstory on why different races are the way they are with lots of detail, as well as the cultural and physical differences. Gods created everything? Alright, time to explain why everything has changed and evolved overtime, and provide lots of reasoning and stories revolving around their differences, nuances, and interactions leading to how things have come to be. Leaving it at "gods made everything that way" is the lazy writing route.
Again, arguing against in-depth lore is a weird hill to die on.
I'd tuck tail and run with that cop-out too. Evolution and Creationism coexist in the real world, too; they added in acceptance of evolution as an afterthought in various derivatives. Also, the Gods in Ashes didn't create the Tulnar biodiversity, the Tulnar did. Which begs the question really: why did the Gods other the Others for their desire to pervert the creation of the Gods, but the Tulnar who did the same are treated kindly? Also, I see why you pivoted to "just because" again; that 'but it's magic' fail back for illogical, inconsistent writing is a powerful drug; akin to the people who complain about dark-skinned races being evil or orcs being irl representations of certain groups—basically, people who bring their irl baggage to fantasy discussions to derail criticism.
It's high fantasy, not high magic btw.
Why do gods create things that evolve or change? Why do gods create Demi-gods? Why do demi-gods or other gods kill other gods? Why do gods have mortal desires for power? Why are we created in gods image having the intellectual power of creation just like god? Why are things still evolving on the earth at this moment or adapting? Why did Eve eat the apple did god make her that way so she was tainted at the moment of creation?
Oh yeah because it’s a fantasy! Even so better yet it’s a game!
I think you’re high on magic I’m not going to lie I feel like I’m talking to one of the crazies on the internet XD
Go play Eve Online or something… zZZ
Hahah, I might be biased (I am a TTRPG player) but I loved the new 2D art on the website. X] Just specifically cause it gave me the TTRPG feeling. 11/10 in my opinion!
I don't think you will get any. There's a deep divide between those who want any given setting to maintain a strong degree of consistency with its world building and those who don't care if the setting decides to random add modern day attire, modern day big city demographics and multi-coloured hair to appease the 'lol my oc is so quirky and unique xD'.
My personally favoured approach is to just make a handful of distinct sub-groups for the various playable races. If we use, say, TESO as an example of an MMO that does that it allows the Bretons, Nords, Imperials and Redguards to each be distinct both visually and culturally. Architecture and furniture, too, is unique as a consequence (for player housing) and it provides a deeper sense of immersion and role-play opportunities as a result.
Lot of typing without realizing Steven has Tulnar lore for a reason. "But magic/but the gods" is universally understood as bad writing. Try again, but with less failed snark this time.