What do you want and not want in Ashes?

Hey guys back with another post to keep community together and hyped.
Simple put in 1 system or really anything that you want in Ashes and same for one you don't want to see!
What I want to see is good class design meaning all classes feel unique and not like others .
What I don't want to see is poor raids. I want them to be hard feel epic and more than a handful of bosses.
Love you guys can't wait to hear what y'all have to say!

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Nagash

I mean not all eastern armour is bad. look at dark souls or berserk. I just hope it looks grim ^^

Damokles

Nagash wrote: »

I mean not all eastern armour is bad. look at dark souls or berserk. I just hope it looks grim ^^

Didnt Dark souls and Berzerk get the overall armour design from western concepts? XD

Nagash

Damokles wrote: »

Nagash wrote: »

I mean not all eastern armour is bad. look at dark souls or berserk. I just hope it looks grim ^^

Didnt Dark souls and Berzerk get the overall armour design from western concepts? XD

Hardicon

What I want is exactly what they promised from the start. A living breathing world, diverse characters and skills, and a true MMORPG.

What I didnt want is a Battle Royale, ive been playing it some, and while it isnt bad game, it is really not my cup of tea and not what i really wanted.

I know Steven says it is just for testing, and I truly hope that is so, but I dont want a br+ with mmo elements either.

Still got my hopes up for the game, still am eagerly waiting, just skeptical at this point.

Hartwell

Exotic cringe equipment is usually the kind of thing that becomes included in later patches slowly over time, to act as a carrot to dangle in front of players, only to have the game drown in them once all of the variations have been exhausted.

Narys

Want - A diverse and interactive world that caters to different play styles. Breeding, healing and lots of guild content (maybe even some Yatas).

Don't want - Dailies, BDO style combat (just isn't for me) and Pay 2 Win

Hartwell

Narys wrote: »

Want - A diverse and interactive world that caters to different play styles. Breeding, healing and lots of guild content (maybe even some Yatas).

Don't want - Dailies, BDO style combat (just isn't for me) and Pay 2 Win

Something close to what dailies are could be inevitable. Things such as growing crops and raising animals tend to fall into that category. I can see where the typical MMO daily quests could add too much onto the daily checklist though.

Jokuc

Want:

Tab target combat
Chess as one of the tavern parlor games to play with people
Hidden jumping puzzles with decoration
As Nagash said, being able to summon an army of the dead (skeletons!)
A raid boss that has such difficult mechanics that players probably won't beat it for a year
Super rare items with only 1 in existence of each kind that can be stolen by other players and a system that prevents people from safe-keeping them on an offline alt-account
Big variety in the world, not only as visually different regions but also by having some areas be navigated more vertically on multiple levels such as mountains etc
The option to use the weaker, non-augmented skills if you for some reason want to
Being able to choose the age of my character (visual change)
Being able to put up a campfire in the forest in the middle of the night
Lots of options for passive skills
Not too small number of active skills. If we only got 10-12 slots I would be disappointed.
Undead racial skin, pretty please?

Do not want:

Simplified spell/class system
The cartoony bulky opaque effects of spells that we have seen in Apocalypse as opposed to translucent streamlined ones seen in games like BDO
The crystal thingys to be in every region of the world
Steven's idea that every character is a "hero" from the start even though they have 0 experience. I want to go on a journey from a nobody to a powerful being, not be spoon-fed fame and fancy gear just cause I'm a player and not an NPC
Low-stat low-tier weapons and armor that have such cool/complicated designs that they look like level 1000000 legendary gear
More of the silly animal combo creatures such as a lion with a frog head or whatever. Make unique creatures instead of freaky Seth Brundle experiments

Nagash

Jokuc wrote: »

Want:
Undead racial skin, pretty please?

This.

Blueh

Want:

Pvp where u can take ur opponents stuff Full loot ideal but just their inventory is cool too. This to make it feel like dying matters, and killing ur opponent gives you something. This also makes it more exciting being a gatherer since its more risk more reward.
Daily Pvp objectives for guilds to defend/attack that give benefits just something small for weeks
Big weekly pvp wars between guilds for control of objectives or areas that give benefits.
Crafting to matter a lot, "gear breaking needing replacement or good consumables"
Agressive healer class like disc priest or enchanter throwing buffs debuffs.
Interesting mechanics in 50v50 ish ZvZ scenarios so that tanks/healers are viable also instead of mass AoE.

Dont want:

Safe zone, if you are outside a town and offended me i will hunt you down.
To make the combat hyper balanced let characters be good at different things.

Caeryl

Pvp where u can take ur opponents stuff Full loot ideal but just their inventory is cool too. This to make it feel like dying matters, and killing ur opponent gives you something. This also makes it more exciting being a gatherer since its more risk more reward.

That would make gathering high risk low reward, with much more reward in ganking than is really healthy.

The current plans allow for an amount of gatherables to be dropped on death, more than fair for PvP that isn’t necessarily encouraged. Sanctioned PvP will grant lots of resources in a way that’s encouraged. I don’t see why so many are calling for unsanctioned PvP to be given immense rewards.

Damokles

Blueh wrote: »

Want:
Pvp where u can take ur opponents stuff Full loot ideal but just their inventory is cool too. This to make it feel like dying matters, and killing ur opponent gives you something. This also makes it more exciting being a gatherer since its more risk more reward.

Yeah... exciting... Dont you rather mean: nervewracking and paranoia inducing? Do you actually plan to play artisan classes? IS already stated that killing people in pvp will drop a certain amount of materials from their inventory. But better watch out that you dont attack non-combatants or you will get corrupted, and corruption will lower your stats etc.

Blueh wrote: »

Dont want:
Safe zone, if you are outside a town and offended me i will hunt you down.

To make the combat hyper balanced let characters be good at different things.

Jokuc

Speaking of ganking, I'd love if they took some inspiration from ESO and Archage about PK and thefts.

Ghoosty

Jokuc wrote: »

Want:
A raid boss that has such difficult mechanics that players probably won't beat it for a year

I think it sounds good only in theory. If I mean it literally, you will not find enough person who will fight against a single boss at least 3-4 times a weak for a year till they learn the mechanics to beat that boss.
If I understand it differently and the progress guilds will need 1 year from the start, including leveling, gearing etc. If we count 2 month for them to max level and 4 another month to max gear. They still need 6 month to try a single boss to learn the mechanics.

If I translate the speed of a progress guild to myself, who is not a hardcore player, but skills and playtime is above average. This still means I need 3-4 month to max level and another half year to farm gear. I am open for a longer progression, but this is way too much.

Would you really enjoy to fight against boss for months without decent chance to win? I am not against it, but my estimation is that it will be less than 0,1% of players who will beat that boss. I think the developers can spend their time on much useful project.

Damokles

Jokuc wrote: »

Want:
[*] Hidden jumping puzzles with decoration
[*] A raid boss that has such difficult mechanics that players probably won't beat it for a year

1. Yes, please! I love the jumping puzzles in GW2 and it had a special feeling, when i found one as an asura right at the start of the beta, where they were still really new. It gives you the feeling of exploration and adventure that you just dont get normaly in my opinion.
2. There is nothing that cant be solved with pure man power. Yes, there were bosses in WoW for example that took the different raiding groups ages(a few months for cthun etc i believe), but not because of the difficulty of mechanics, but rather because of the damage scaling and encounter tuning. Dont get me wrong, i love difficult bosses, but the rewards should be actually rewarding in the case of such a difficult boss.

Blueh

Caeryl wrote: »

That would make gathering high risk low reward, with much more reward in ganking than is really healthy.
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It makes gathering harder and in doing so makes it more valuable and better to gather and forces you to have tactics and awareness when gathering.

I know some ppl dont like pvp but the full loot pvp battles is such a rush it should be qualified as a drug. Escaping a gang of gankers when gatherng is so satisfying. planning and skill pays off.

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Damokles

Tsukasa wrote: »

The worst of the worst, red templates that warns players from an incoming attack.
No matter how hard PvE is, just NO!!!! Let us learn through trial & error, and intuition.

Example:
A raid video. From my beloved, favorite MMO, that died after adding red templates by another company(?). Dragon Nest
Dragon fight is at 20:37 minutes, all the fights were fun and challenging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCHaDLUGqsY[/video]
I'll probably post this in a separate topic later.
Want:
Rename Marriage to Soulmate because it's inappropriate, and preferably give them PvE-only spiritual skills that they both share CD.
The idea is from an MMO called Asda Story. I added "PvE-only" to the suggestion, so players don't feel forced to it. In Asda Story this system was its main focus(I think), it shouldn't be as important in Ashes of Creation, but optional.

That being said, this system helped antisocials like me A LOT at making very close friends!!! It's unbelievably effective.

I can get behind the "no indicators thing", but seriously... why do you think that the word marriage is is "inappropriate"? I think that marriage should not give any kinds of buffs or advantages, because that would just force players to "marry" someone so that they had the same advantage as those that are already married... If you think that only PvP players are competitive, then you dont truly know the PvE player community...

The whole "soulmate" idea is also pretty ridiculous tbh. What happens if you "break up" with that person? Did you stop being soulmates with them? Are soulmates not supposed to be the "perfect match" for each other?

Please stop pushing that idea of a ridiculous system from a third rate game on Ashes...

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Caeryl

Blueh wrote: »

Caeryl wrote: »

That would make gathering high risk low reward, with much more reward in ganking than is really healthy.
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It makes gathering harder and in doing so makes it more valuable and better to gather and forces you to have tactics and awareness when gathering.

I know some ppl dont like pvp but the full loot pvp battles is such a rush it should be qualified as a drug. Escaping a gang of gankers when gatherng is so satisfying. planning and skill pays off.

I feel like you have misunderstood the risk-reward balance because it very clearly is high risk, low reward. A ganker with no gatherables on hand has no risk, and high reward if they gank a player that's been gathering for half an hour.

You're asking for ganking to be a faster method of gathering than actually going out and gathering, which is a terrible approach if you want open world PvP to be something people actually have to give consideration to first.

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