FuryBladeborne wrote: » George Black wrote: » It's better to think about the health of the game, for many years to come, and support additional testers, rather that gatekeep your 'exclusive club status'. Backing out on exclusive rewards is not a good idea. Promised exclusion increases the sales at the time. For example, I bought a $500 package for myself and my wife. When I went to Kickstarter I intended to donate about $50. Because of the exclusive and limited time options, I ended up spending 20 times what I had intended to. Fortunately, I am confident that Steven will keep such purchases exclusive and in doing so, show that it was worth paying so much. Re-adding exclusive sales will cause players to distrust the promise which can have multiple problems but includes reducing the increase in sales because people will choose to wait. Of course, none of that applies to the OP because Alpha 1 was never exclusive. It can be verified by looking up the Kickstarter project and seeing that Alpha's were not specified as exclusive while certain other rewards were.
George Black wrote: » It's better to think about the health of the game, for many years to come, and support additional testers, rather that gatekeep your 'exclusive club status'.
Caeryl wrote: » Alpha1 was never labeled a KS exclusive, so I don’t get where the complaints are coming from
StevenSharif wrote: » Hello frand. To clarify, Alpha One was never listed as exclusive. In fact, over 2 years ago when I “suspended” the Alpha One preorder packs I did specify that the access was being suspended because we had hit our 10k tester limit. My statement about reopening Alpha One sales will only come under consideration after our alpha one testing with our current Alpha One backers and Intrepid pre-order pack holders shows that we are capable of stress testing beyond our previously anticipated limits of 10k. If Alpha One were to be offered once more as a preorder package, it would be under a different pack name but of same price point. These intentions are consistent with my previous statements regarding Alpha One ❤️
George Black wrote: » It's better to think about the health of the game, for many years to come, and support additional testers, rather that gatekeep your 'exclusive club status'. Now if you dont want to be reasonable, remember, they never said that A1 sales were final.
RahkstarRPG wrote: » I... legitimately don't understand OP's thought process, to be honest. It's obvious from the stream they said they'd consider reopening alpha 1 sales *later*. As in, after the people that have already purchased them get in. Did you really think they'd start selling alpha 1 access again before they got the people that already bought alpha access into alpha? Really? Really. Come on now.
GemiiChan wrote: » You missed the entirety of the point. No one wants to be a gate keeper - my issue isnt with more people being in.
Atama wrote: » I’m a Braver, here is the list of rewards at my level: Invite to Closed Alpha - Phase 1 (Earliest Access to Ashes!) Kickstarter Exclusive - Lifetime subscription to Ashes of Creation!! Access to Live launch head-start - 2 days early! Kickstarter Exclusive - Dawnbreaker Epic mount Kickstarter Exclusive - Character Royalty Costume Guild Name Reservation - 1 Name reserved Monster Tokens x 5 - Elite Tier Unique "Braver of Worlds" forum badge Unique in-game character title "Braver of Worlds" Notice that a number of things were KS exclusives. But not Alpha 1 access. I never pledged thinking that it would be the only way to get in Alpha testing, since that wasn’t what was promised. If Intrepid allows more people into Alpha then that is a very good thing because it means that the game is stable enough to allow for more concurrent users. It’s a sign of progress. Am I a little irked that I’m not actually getting first access to the game? Yes, that actually is a broken promise, just as the lifetime sub being exclusive to KS was a broken promise. Intrepid has definitely shown to not be 100% trustworthy (sorry Steven but it’s true, I still love you man) but it’s not enough for me to lose faith, not even close.
GemiiChan wrote: » I see your point. Mine is just holding Steven accountable to what he says
jubilum wrote: » Maybe I'm missing something, I don't understand the desire to play a game that isn't finished. Sounds like a huge headache to me with bugs, things not working as intended, graphical glitches, etc. Oh well, must be those who don't value their time or those who enjoy pain.
Atama wrote: » As extremely limited as it was (and I mean there was no game, just the ability to walk around an empty area for 30 minutes at a time) I really enjoyed the 2nd wave of Beta for Star Wars Galaxies. It was such a small group and we got to see things nobody else could see until months later. And we had an immediate and important impact on development at that time. It was more memorable than any finished game I’ve ever played.
GemiiChan wrote: » Why even announce that it may be returning when you havent even rolled it out to Leader of Men package users? It just doesnt make sense to me regardless of intent or considerations. Had this announcement come after all packs that received this invite got into Alpha 1 - I would have said nothing, side-eyed it, but would have said nothing. I understand that Alpha 1 isnt exclusive, although given the history exclusivity doesnt mean much - im all for letting people in. This same argument was used by the same people who wanted a Summer Sale shop and didnt even support it! I backed the game, I want its success but Im not about to standby and Fan-girl when I see things that need to be addressed.
George Black wrote: » FuryBladeborne wrote: » [quote="George Black;c-233097" I got a $500 because this is the first time I believe in a new mmo. I want to test and provide feedback. If more people come to test paying $500 or upgrading, sweet. End of story. As if Ill give a damn about whether other people get the Spellbreaker gauntlent. Seriously? We are hire to find bugs and help the devs and people refuse to more testers coming? Meanwhile there's still war in syria. People, get your shiet together and stop being offended and feel victimized. To hell with your sense or privilege when it comes to cosmetics in the packs. Once more, they never said the salea were final.
FuryBladeborne wrote: » [quote="George Black;c-233097" I got a $500 because this is the first time I believe in a new mmo. I want to test and provide feedback. If more people come to test paying $500 or upgrading, sweet. End of story. As if Ill give a damn about whether other people get the Spellbreaker gauntlent. Seriously? We are hire to find bugs and help the devs and people refuse to more testers coming? Meanwhile there's still war in syria. People, get your shiet together and stop being offended and feel victimized. To hell with your sense or privilege when it comes to cosmetics in the packs. Once more, they never said the salea were final.
Vhaeyne wrote: » jubilum wrote: » ... just as the lifetime sub being exclusive to KS was a broken promise.
jubilum wrote: » ... just as the lifetime sub being exclusive to KS was a broken promise.
Lafi wrote: » Just charge more, a1 from KS becomes a premium for being there early. Dont add alpha 2 players. We didn't pay for alpha 1 so we don't deserve it. Nothing wrong with what they're doing with reselling IF needed.
