Could there be a server where you only have 1 character?

This is 1 request and 1 question. The majority likes that several characters can be used on 1 server, I don't want this to change on every server, just make 1-2 exceptions if there is a need for it.if you can have more than one character on 1 server, my personal problems with it: time-consuming, pvp with your non-main character with minimal negative impact,event with multiple characters,it does not look for a missing main character, but instead switches to it,more characters you can learn more professions, this also reduces the interaction with the others Clearing dungeons multiple times,your alt character is in a small guild, your character is big in a big guild. if you only have 1 character, the classes and the character itself are more important and pvp is less. thank you in advance for your feedback. (if something is weird, it's because I translated it with a translator, but I hope you can understand roughly what I'm writing)

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xmix

Thank you for the comments. I think there were more positives than negatives. There were several people who wouldn't mind if there was such a server in addition to the regular servers.I liked the discussion and you are planning more similar ones.If this doesn't work, I'll look for another solution, if it doesn't work, I'll give up xD

hleV

Since you can't be "everything" with just one character, forcing just one character per server may be too big of a restriction. One player, however, should be limited to just one guild, regardless of how many characters they have.

Dygz

Haha. Except espionage is an aspect of PvP.
And... Steven wants both espionage and about as much PvP in the game as possible.
That's part of the Risk of allowing people to join your guild.

xmix

hleV wrote: »

Since you can't be "everything" with just one character, forcing just one character per server may be too big of a restriction. One player, however, should be limited to just one guild, regardless of how many characters they have.

this would be the essence of the game, that you can't do everything with 1 character. But the solution to this is not to add + 2 characte?so the game will be solo and you won't have to interact with others.

xmix

Dygz wrote: »

Haha. Except espionage is an aspect of PvP.
And... Steven wants both espionage and about as much PvP in the game as possible.
That's part of the Risk of allowing people to join your guild.

espionage could also be a guild skill or character specialization could also be espionage. You wouldn't need + 1 character for that.

hleV

Dygz wrote: »

Haha. Except espionage is an aspect of PvP.
And... Steven wants both espionage and about as much PvP in the game as possible.
That's part of the Risk of allowing people to join your guild.

No reason to encourage it by making it too accessible. It will still be done using alt accounts.

Dygz

hleV wrote: »

It will still be done using alt accounts.

I think I said that?

RazThemun

As far as I am aware all servers will be the same. There won't be an offering of pve servers, pvp servers, hardcore servers, etc. So a server such as the one you are suggesting is not very likely.

xmix

Vaknar wrote: »

So your concerns are mostly that of alts taking away from some experiences? From my own experience, I've usually kept most of my playtime to one or two characters on a server, just because that's what my time allows. I know friends who have had many alts, but they also generally had more time to invest!

2 characters is not so dangerous, caste change and such, if you want a new character, don't fail everything you have collected so far.Problems: you own several professions, so you lose someone's job. You can be a guild of several sizes, you farm in a small guild with bonuses,big guild you go to dungeons with pvp.

if you have more characters, 3 or more. In 4-8 cities, I monitor the market almost like fast travel. You can choose a character who doesn't care about his reputation. Those who have a lot of characters will not actually get involved in the game or only for a very long time. And it will be that we are not looking for a missing caste, but someone just changes characters.

this is just 1 example: I make 1 character called Vaknarr, I use the same tools as yours and I kill your guildmates, then I run to the other side of the map, then I go back to my big character, I go back to kill 2-3 times a day

I'm not saying that all servers should be like this, only if there are enough people interested in it, there could be 1 such server, but they are very reluctant to start different types of servers.

10-12 were written, not a lot, but the other half wouldn't mind if the other half liked it, and only 1-2 people said no or it won't happen, I'd like it in vain

if there is no flexibility in the developers, then the broken servers will come. The more options there are in 1 game, the smaller the chance that it will start, I think, especially if it is a monthly fee.

thank you for the answer, I hope I will get some feedback on this as well.

(Sorry, I don't know English, but I hope it's understandable as I described it, I apologize in advance if something was translated strangely)

Undead Canuck

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

xmix

Undead Canuck wrote: »

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

I can't understand these 2 sentences.or you want to say that I should make 1 character and not care that others will have 8 characters

unknownsystemerror

xmix wrote: »

Undead Canuck wrote: »

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

I can't understand these 2 sentences.or you want to say that I should make 1 character and not care that others will have 8 characters

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying. If you don't like having more than one character, then don't. No one is forcing you to do anything. What you don't get to do is dictate how others may play.

xmix

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

xmix wrote: »

Undead Canuck wrote: »

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

I can't understand these 2 sentences.or you want to say that I should make 1 character and not care that others will have 8 characters

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying. If you don't like having more than one character, then don't. No one is forcing you to do anything. What you don't get to do is dictate how others may play.

I like sensible comments. these two are not, but I appreciate that you tried to interpret the conversation.

xmix

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

xmix wrote: »

Undead Canuck wrote: »

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

I can't understand these 2 sentences.or you want to say that I should make 1 character and not care that others will have 8 characters

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying. If you don't like having more than one character, then don't. No one is forcing you to do anything. What you don't get to do is dictate how others may play.

I would be happy if you read old conversations about the problems that I raised and think about them a little before you immediately attack. and anyway, at the end of most it is written that I want 1(-2) such servers, not that all of them should be like this.even if it were to succeed, which is a small chance, it would not affect 90% of the players.even if it were to succeed, which is a small chance, it would not affect 80-90% of the players. I described what negative effects I think the many alt characters will have in the later phases of the server.

willsummon

The largest problem with Archeage was lack of character slots.

Say what you will, altaholics can be a good healthy part of a MMO. While some such players may not reach max level, they will start a new character every so often, helping to keep the leveling population a healthy size.

Arya_Yeshe

Not good, only 1 character? No way, you gotta have your far away character to check market and other stuff and handle things for you when you are not around

nanfoodle

If this server was also RP it would be the only server I played on.

Mordimer

I would love to see that. It would support my idea of super-specializing in one of the areas: fight or crafting. Now we have max points used in some dps/tank/heal skill tree and max points used in some crafting. My idea would be adding a bit of points at the top of that. And that would be being slightly better in fighting or crafting (or maybe even in utility skills)... I posted that in some other post, but what I mean would roughly look like that:

Example 1: I want to have meta dps build. I distribute 90 points in warrior dps tree, I distribute 90 points in crafting tree... and maybe 90 points in utility skills - I've never seen any game like that, but maybe that would be interesting? And when I reach max level I have another 10 points to distribute. So obviously I put all 10 points in dps - now I am mega-uber-hiper-big-dick dps warrior with 5cm longer... sword.

Example 2: I am bored of doing raids if I am forced to get highest dps, optimize my rotation, etc... frustrating. In exchange I would like to be useful different way - for example by some kind of utility skill (like in most rpg systems - D&D, Warhammer, whatever). So I have 90 points in my dps tree, 90 points in crafting tree (alchemy, whatever), 90 points in utility skills. And my last 10 points I put into very specialized utility skills - like unlocking the last door behind last boss with extra loot, opening 30 minutes shortcut in 3 hours long dungeon. So yes, I will not do as much damage as others but I maybe I can be invited to the raids to get these UNIQUE LOOT (it doesn't need to be better than last boss loot - but unique any other way), or maybe make the same raid faster (useful if you do it for 100 time).

Example 3: I want to be known as one of the best crafters in the game. So i get my 90 points in healing tree (let's say I am healer), 90 points in utility (like everyone), and 90 points in Blacksmithing. Now I am as good Blacksmith like any other player who has access to the best crafting stations in the biggest cities. But I'd like to spend my last 10 points in Blacksmithing and be able to make armor 5 points better than anybody else or add some visual feature and my signature. Or maybe I could have ability to improve existing armor by these 5 points? Everyone would respect the best crafter in the game... meta dps dudes would love to have slightly better axe or slightly more durable armor, meta healers would love to have slightly better staff, etc. But how to get invitation to raids if you do less healing than others? Maybe at the end of some of the dungeon we could have unique forge (different than in the biggest cities), where the fresh loot can be improved by these crafters - adding slightly to the stats?
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That means you couldn't have 2nd character only for crafting purposes

oOKingOo

I'm not sure what I like more myself.

The first really good MMO I played had one character per account, and I have to say I loved it. It makes your actions on this one character so much more important. Some people still had alts, but it mainly started as the server eventually got smaller and there were not enough crafters and such, but they had to pay for two memberships per month to have an alt. The effect this has is that you, as a player, are your character much more than in games where you have 10 alts. You were one class, you had one job, etc., instead of everyone having a character of every class and every job, so everyone is basically self-sufficient and plays every class on other characters. This meant different people were experts in different classes, and the best way to learn about another class's strengths and weaknesses was to talk to someone who played that class, instead of everyone being a master of every class and you making an alt of every class to look at all the abilities and find strengths and weaknesses. It just felt much more organic and believable. Now, I do think Ashes' class skill and augment systems are too complex for you to make an alt for every class and every possible way to play that class, but an alt of every archetype is definitely possible.

On the other hand, playing ESO would have been so annoying without alts because of the tiny inventory space (to be fair, the point of that was to be annoying to make people buy ESO Plus). I feel like inventory space is the main reason for alts anyways. But this could actually turn into a problem if I think about it. Ashes lives from risk and reward; nodes can be destroyed and storage can drop. When you die, you can drop certain loot. So why would people even store their important stuff there in the first place when they can also just give them to an alt that is offline a majority of the time and thus can't be killed? So even if you get killed or your node gets destroyed, you lose nothing important because you have the important stuff on your alt. I feel like it would have a negative effect on Ashes if people started doing that.

But to be honest, I think the player base nowadays is way too used to games like WoW where you can have alts. For only one character per account to be a popular idea, making a whole server for this would be a workaround, but the question is how populated this server would be because having a relatively high active server population is super important for MMOs. I don't have a good solution that is fine for both sides here. Maybe start with alts being a thing, but if you notice people use them to eliminate risk from the game, then make it so you can only have one character per account.
Also ppl wont be able to make spy chas on that server wich could make politics either more interesting(recruiting new players as spys so opponents dont know they come from your guild) or more boring (ppl just not making spys at all).

xmix

unknownsystemerror wrote: »

xmix wrote: »

Undead Canuck wrote: »

All servers can be 1 character only. Just don't create any others.

I can't understand these 2 sentences.or you want to say that I should make 1 character and not care that others will have 8 characters

Yes, that is exactly what he is saying. If you don't like having more than one character, then don't. No one is forcing you to do anything. What you don't get to do is dictate how others may play.

Mordimer wrote: »

I would love to see that. It would support my idea of super-specializing in one of the areas: fight or crafting. Now we have max points used in some dps/tank/heal skill tree and max points used in some crafting. My idea would be adding a bit of points at the top of that. And that would be being slightly better in fighting or crafting (or maybe even in utility skills)... I posted that in some other post, but what I mean would roughly look like that:

Example 1: I want to have meta dps build. I distribute 90 points in warrior dps tree, I distribute 90 points in crafting tree... and maybe 90 points in utility skills - I've never seen any game like that, but maybe that would be interesting? And when I reach max level I have another 10 points to distribute. So obviously I put all 10 points in dps - now I am mega-uber-hiper-big-dick dps warrior with 5cm longer... sword.

Example 2: I am bored of doing raids if I am forced to get highest dps, optimize my rotation, etc... frustrating. In exchange I would like to be useful different way - for example by some kind of utility skill (like in most rpg systems - D&D, Warhammer, whatever). So I have 90 points in my dps tree, 90 points in crafting tree (alchemy, whatever), 90 points in utility skills. And my last 10 points I put into very specialized utility skills - like unlocking the last door behind last boss with extra loot, opening 30 minutes shortcut in 3 hours long dungeon. So yes, I will not do as much damage as others but I maybe I can be invited to the raids to get these UNIQUE LOOT (it doesn't need to be better than last boss loot - but unique any other way), or maybe make the same raid faster (useful if you do it for 100 time).

Example 3: I want to be known as one of the best crafters in the game. So i get my 90 points in healing tree (let's say I am healer), 90 points in utility (like everyone), and 90 points in Blacksmithing. Now I am as good Blacksmith like any other player who has access to the best crafting stations in the biggest cities. But I'd like to spend my last 10 points in Blacksmithing and be able to make armor 5 points better than anybody else or add some visual feature and my signature. Or maybe I could have ability to improve existing armor by these 5 points? Everyone would respect the best crafter in the game... meta dps dudes would love to have slightly better axe or slightly more durable armor, meta healers would love to have slightly better staff, etc. But how to get invitation to raids if you do less healing than others? Maybe at the end of some of the dungeon we could have unique forge (different than in the biggest cities), where the fresh loot can be improved by these crafters - adding slightly to the stats?
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That means you couldn't have 2nd character only for crafting purposes

I think this belongs more to the development system. I wouldn't overcomplicate it, but everyone would have a lot of characters anyway.

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