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PvP arena in cities (like a colosseum)

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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Azherae wrote: »
    So a huge room that people can have entirely unregulated Free-for-Alls in?

    I don't really see how that 'matches up' with the Lawless Zone experience.
    Well yeah, my point is that the entire premise of lawless zones is dumb. It's a ffa for the strongest players, with rewards for killing everyone else.

    I want a space where people can just properly pvp at all times with no restrictions and then the rest of the world to be at constant danger from anyone around you, because corruption system will only fuck them over if they didn't clear their PK count well enough.

    One is a pure pvp place, but still in the open world, so that there's none of that matchmaking/queue bs and the other is a dangerous PvX world. Both have pvp in it, but one is for pure fights, while the other is fights over some other content rather than "well, I gank people just because I want some pvp", even though the sheer process of "ganking" implies that the other person was preoccupied with something else, wasn't properly prepared for you and barely responded to your actions (if at all).

    All of this is, once again, based on years of enjoying this exact setup with shitton of different pvp/x encounters.
    Kallysha wrote: »
    Im sorry but i am having an hard time believing that after all you have said.
    Yes, you do find it hard to understand that someone could've had a similar experience to you, but didn't come out with the same result in terms of their POV on the mechanic.
    Kallysha wrote: »
    And btw who hurt you?
    No one. I simply grew out of the weakest kind of pvp out there. I did all of that stuff in my earlier years, because I thought that killing weaklings was something cool and worth bragging about.

    Then I grew up and realized that having proper wars and equal fights (or fighting upwards against stronger people) is a much more interesting activity and IS actually worth bragging about, if you come out on top.

    And then defending the weaklings for the gankers felt even better, because gankers would often cry that I'm spoiling their fun, even though they literally drive people away from the game.

    But I want all 3 types of people to coexist in Ashes, which is exactly why I've been suggesting a system that would allow gankers to kill people, allow BHs to hunt those gankers and would allow victims to have a higher chance of getting their lost items back (while still losing a portion of loot, cause it gets sunken).
    Kallysha wrote: »
    Also ye there was sort of 'open' arenas in separated wvw instances, i can put a video so you see the huge difference of environment between the 2 (open wvw arena and wvw), plus also an extremely good pvper (and even avid pver solo bosses player) ganking some well known gankers back (in the second wvw video)
    Again, as I showed in the video I posted, my experience of open world arenas is also "it's just a basic open field". Which is exactly why I'm asking for something MUCH BETTER from Intrepid. I've been trying to hold them up to better standards than what I (or Steven) experienced before. And I believe they can match those standards, but Steven seems to prefer the easy way out.

    Though, of couuuuuurse, everything is subject to change and a work in progress, so, by some miracle, we might still see some complex and deep systems later on. I'm just worried that if I stop yelling at Steven about those kinds of systems - the "pvpers" will just make him create a ton of lawless zones and that's gonna be that.

    I played with lawless zones - they're shit and boring.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    edited June 19
    Oh and btw, here's my reaction to the first flagged people that I saw during P2.5's start
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DWGrumMhSaQ

    Definitely a reaction of someone who's completely and totally not a pvper, yes.

    EDIT: and here's me at my 24th hour of straight gamplay, not realizing that war enemies show up as red (this one the first that I saw at the time) thinking "oh, some bastard was PKing lowbies near Lionhold, I can take him" and then seeing that he's lvl20 and is about to body me. All while I had super rare mats on me and literally a few minutes ago in the stream I said "nah, I'm just running to Windstead, cause my loot is too precious".

    https://www.twitch.tv/ludullu/clip/CarelessIgnorantCocoaKappaClaus-SKYXUPz2MfN48NUf

    Also definitely not a pvpers response to seeing a pvpable target.
  • KallyshaKallysha Member
    edited 1:53AM
    Ludullu wrote: »
    I want a space where people can just properly pvp at all times with no restrictions and then the rest of the world to be at constant danger from anyone around you, because corruption system will only fuck them over if they didn't clear their PK count well enough.

    I played with lawless zones - they're shit and boring.

    Funny that, it already existed, were called lawless zones! And it looks like you are pretty much the only one on a constant complaining about it, like everywhere; while the majority of the pvpers seemed to have fun in there hence why they are asking for it back.
    (what is also funny is that you keep contradicting yourself and changing your narrative gradually)
    And once more what you want its evidently not what everyone wants... also honestly i couldnt care less about your reactions, as far as it goes to me you do not own a competitive mindset, been beyond obvious when you prioritize pve related stuff over pvp, plus you can say/post whatever you want it wont shake my certainty.
    Surely we do not have a similar experience btw.
    Ludullu wrote: »
    I simply grew out of the weakest kind of pvp out there. I did all of that stuff in my earlier years, because I thought that killing weaklings was something cool and worth bragging about.
    Oh the strike of irony, so as you did the others must not... gotcha
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    (what is also funny is that you keep contradicting yourself and changing your narrative gradually)
    I wasn't about to respond, but I am curious, where exactly is the contradiction in my statements?
  • KallyshaKallysha Member
    Ludullu wrote: »
    I wasn't about to respond, but I am curious, where exactly is the contradiction in my statements?

    All you need to do is to go back and read what you have written
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    All you need to do is to go back and read what you have written
    Ah, so you won't explain yourself, just as you refuse to watch me literally pvp when the pvp opportunity arises. So yeah, I'm totally contradicting myself and totally not a pvper. Got it :)
  • KallyshaKallysha Member
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Ah, so you won't explain yourself, just as you refuse to watch me literally pvp when the pvp opportunity arises. So yeah, I'm totally contradicting myself and totally not a pvper. Got it :)

    In a matter of fact i did just watch, also got curious
    Now im not going to do an essay of every single time you contradicted yourself, just go back and read
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    In a matter of fact i did just watch, also got curious
    Now im not going to do an essay of every single time you contradicted yourself, just go back and read
    I don't need an essay. Point to a single contradiction, that's it.
  • KallyshaKallysha Member
    Ludullu wrote: »
    Nah, they do have a point. I'm not a pvper.
    Ludullu wrote: »
    I've been a ganker in PK guilds.

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