How would people feel if religious crusades are a thing, and possibly religious leaders?

ArchivedUser

I just thought this would be awesome as a side event that could happen not very often.

ArchivedUser

wwwwwww @AutumnWillow and @Dygz are going to love this!

ArchivedUser

Heh. It's nice but I'd rather see it as a role play choice of a religious node rather than in game mechanics making the religious crusade happen. 

A religious Alliance trying to sweep the nation while the rest of the heathens try to fend off the attacks.

ArchivedUser

Yeah that would make a kind of cool event....especially if you were defending your home. Working with others against a horde of zealots, wave after wave of attackers with a monster coin opportunity thrown in.

ArchivedUser

I think it would be fun and I think was already addressed in the streams.. I know one of the streams went into some detail on this.

 I really wanna know what the religions are going to do for us as a group and as a single player in the game too. buffs, crafting recipes , vendors etc. 

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Dwarfatarms said:

I think it would be fun and I think was already addressed in the streams.. I know one of the streams went into some detail on this.

 I really wanna know what the religions are going to do for us as a group and as a single player in the game too. buffs, crafting recipes , vendors etc. 

So war based gods giving better attacks or weapons, but not having better prices at vendors?

ArchivedUser

This might happen if there are various ways to raise the gods. 

ArchivedUser

I was under the impression that differing religions owning nodes was meant to be a catalist for meaningful conflict.  Religion has be the catalyst for war, right or wrong, since the invention of religion.  So long as this is just seen as another fun mechanic to insight pvp it sounds good to me.

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Kratz said:

Yeah that would make a kind of cool event....especially if you were defending your home. Working with others against a horde of zealots, wave after wave of attackers with a monster coin opportunity thrown in.

So you could call upon your chosen god to bring 'divine force' to badly damage the enemy forces?

ArchivedUser

religious leaders, definitely.

ArchivedUser

SirCheesingtonIII said:

Kratz said:

Yeah that would make a kind of cool event....especially if you were defending your home. Working with others against a horde of zealots, wave after wave of attackers with a monster coin opportunity thrown in.

So you could call upon your chosen god to bring 'divine force' to badly damage the enemy forces?

Could I guess. If they're living in the world anyway, perhaps that's what your monster coin could go on? I'm not a creative person tbh but I like the idea

ArchivedUser

There will be religious nodes and I'm sure there will be quite a few religious guilds, so this kind of thing will probably happen. But I agree with @AutumnWillow that this should probably kept as RP rather than a game mechanic.

ArchivedUser

It's mankind's most time honored tradition, finding someone different from us and fighting them!

ArchivedUser

Divine nodes will have religious leaders.

I suppose we'll have to see whether any powerful Divine nodes try to stage crusades or jihads. Especially against rival Divine nodes.
Guilds of Divine nodes could mechanically have guild wars that mimic crusades.

Cleric/Summoners should be able to summon divine beings. Potentially the avatar of a god.

We'll also have to see if any non-official cult leaders arise.

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Dygz said:

Divine nodes will have religious leaders.

I suppose we'll have to see whether any powerful Divine nodes try to stage crusades or jihads. Especially against rival Divine nodes.
Guilds of Divine nodes could mechanically have guild wars that mimic crusades.

Cleric/Summoners should be able to summon divine beings. Potentially the avatar of a god.

We'll also have to see if any non-official cult leaders arise.

Cult leaders huh? All praise Cheesus are lord and savior! 

ArchivedUser

SirCheesingtonIII said:

Dwarfatarms said:

I think it would be fun and I think was already addressed in the streams.. I know one of the streams went into some detail on this.

 I really wanna know what the religions are going to do for us as a group and as a single player in the game too. buffs, crafting recipes , vendors etc. 

So war based gods giving better attacks or weapons, but not having better prices at vendors?

I mean , anything would be sweet really. I'd just like to see what great things religion will bring. I have high hopes for this aspect of the game.

ArchivedUser

I can imagine a religion that gives a crusader buff that allows you to kill green players of an enemy religion if there are within your religion's zoi (using zoi as i have no idea how they plan on saying religions expand and such) AKA extremist religions "Don't go to town xxx they have crusaders just waiting to murder you."

ArchivedUser

I expect one of the gods will be giving us corruption.

ArchivedUser

I like just about all things that can add story, content, immersion and personal/community goals. Just make sure that it is somewhat balanced. Just like you don't want one Metropolis to be able to rule the world, you don't want one religion to do the same...

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Bringslite said:

I like just about all things that can add story, content, immersion and personal/community goals. Just make sure that it is somewhat balanced. Just like you don't want one Metropolis to be able to rule the world, you don't want one religion to do the same...

I was thinking the winning religion would gain a buff, xp boost or something for an amount of time.

ArchivedUser

This just makes me think of Berserk ^^ 
I do think this will be an interesting concept because any crusades will be player controlled so it would be down to us how it was to come about ^^ so could be a bad or good thing xD it's interesting if anything

ArchivedUser

SirCheesingtonIII said:

Bringslite said:

I like just about all things that can add story, content, immersion and personal/community goals. Just make sure that it is somewhat balanced. Just like you don't want one Metropolis to be able to rule the world, you don't want one religion to do the same...

I was thinking the winning religion would gain a buff, xp boost or something for an amount of time.

Wouldn't that then be a faction though?

ArchivedUser

It wouldn't be an official code-fixed faction.

Ashes only has one religion, as far as we know so far - a pantheon.
Should be fine if one sect of the religion rules the world. People can always try to overthrow that rule if they wish.

Probably be pretty nigh impossible to have one metropolis rule the world.
One megaguild, perhaps.

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Dygz said:

It wouldn't be an official code-fixed faction.

Probably be pretty nigh impossible to have one metropolis rule the world.
One megaguild, perhaps.

I see your point - one would have that it would be pretty impossible. I guess a time will come though when a true power does rule and the message will be "Hey, we're happy here. Come kick us out if you want!".  

ArchivedUser

think with whats going on in the world right now need to be carefully , but in a Q and A they said they had there own gods so it be like elder scrolls that will be fine , but as we don't know a lot ,how can say 

ArchivedUser

No to system wide events, yes to player alliances trying to start such crusades.  If RPers want to create the crusades by all means do.

Not some ham-fisted attempt at community events.

ArchivedUser

This sounds interesting in principle, although I agree with those who want to be careful with the whole Religion idea, before other details are revealed.

It would be sad if the concept of religion would reduce to an in-game selection, instead of a set of action and rituals you have to perform, in order to stay under the protection of your deity.

"You should join my cult, man. There's an attack boost against all disbelievers."
"Neat! So, I just have to accept, and then I'm in?"
"Almost! Well, except for the three mandatory animal sacrifices per day."
"...Well, it doesn't sou-"
"And the ban upon red clothes, of course"
"...the what?"
"Oh, don't forget to never pronounce words which start with 'K' "
"..."

ArchivedUser

This was the first thing that popped into my head when i saw the stream about religion.
I think there was talk about maby letting a player work him self up to be the pope so crusades might become a thing.

ArchivedUser

Valkeries said:

This was the first thing that popped into my head when i saw the stream about religion.
I think there was talk about maby letting a player work him self up to be the pope so crusades might become a thing.

I mean if they did do it not as a RP event it would be interesting to see. *cough* all hail my cult leader dygz *cough*

ArchivedUser

The leader of the Divine Metropolis will basically be a Pope.
We have a Religion progression path - we will have tasks and rewards associated with that - similar to the Artisan, Adventurer, Social and Naval progression paths.

There will be more involved with Religion than simply clicking yes to align yourself with one god.

@Xolver (you right, I am planning to work towards building a Divine Metropolis)

ArchivedUser

@Dygz i shall follow you into the field of battle my divine leader