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Phase I of Alpha Two testing will occur on weekends. Each weekend is scheduled to start on Fridays at 10 AM PT and end on Sundays at 10 PM PT. Find out more here.
Check out Alpha Two Announcements here to see the latest Alpha Two news and update notes.
Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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If so, that's a big no no as far as I'm concerned & could definitely be classified as P2W.
When those of us who contributed to the KS campaign did contribute there were some who contributed based on the goodies they wanted from contributing. However, there were a vast number of us who contributed to be contributing to something we believe in and hope for. The "goodies" associated with the costs aren't the goal of the campaigns, they're items to sweeten the level of donation. So you're paying $25 not for the cosmetic items, but more for the sake of contributing to the development of this game. Cosmetic items may remain at that cost, or may cost less once the game once the game launches, it's too early to say yet what they'll choose to do. For myself, I hope they're wise enough to price things low enough that more people will buy them. But that's after the game launches, and that's not the focus of the campaigns themselves.
Or, at least, that's my perception of things
That is all
I've no complaints about Intrepid and think the pricing is fine
I do absolutely see your perspective, and I also bought my pack not only for the goodies, but to support this project, because I believe in it. See, I do not have so much of a problem with how they valued the add-on items, because well.. they're supposed to be special and whatnot.
However, here's what my concern is; the add-on items are cosmetics such as costumes/pet skins/mount skins, exact items that have been promised for the game's cash shop (when the game releases releases). And here we see some of the mount skins coming up to $50. If (and only if) this is the kind of price-range they are thinking of for the cash shop, I would never pay that much for a mount skin. Easy answer is: "ok, so don't buy anything". But, I am really interested in buying skins from the cash shop in the future, and really would like to pay something little extra each month. However, I will not pay $25 for a costume or $50 for a mount skin IF these are the kind of prices they have in mind for the future cash shop.
I am not trying to complain about the summer add-on prices. I am just seeing if people agree with me that for the future cash shop, those prices are just too high.
The issue with what you have wrote is that people will buy into it (two above already have) this creates a perception of how something should be when it in fact it is not and the development team has proven they will not correct that thinking. This is what brought us here today with what the community expected and what Steven himself stated that created the impression of what we should have anticipated.
Creating a flowery narrative that is not supported by any actual Intrepid statements is only going to create heartbreak for everyone when it turns out not to be true.
Here's my largest problem:
All we really have with AOC right now is your word and our faith. I don't care what you price your things at. Charge $100 for a costume, whatever. But don't lie to me.
A lot of us have been burned by the MMO industry and are putting our faith in you to do what you said you were going to do - Deliver a solid S2P MMO with no P2W, in my case.
When you wordsmith, when you come back behind yourself and behave in ways that seem duplicitous (I'm speaking right now to the "Reasonably Priced" $450 add-on), then it makes it hard for me to believe the other, more exciting things that you're saying.
I still have hope, I'm still super hyped to see what's going to come of this, but please remember that you've got a lot of fans here that really believe in what you're doing - Please don't betray the faith that we're placing in you.
they just pissed off a much larger pool of people, and once again set a precedent for what people should expect from them. So future people who find out about this title will most likely hear negative things from their decisions with this matter.
Who likes being lied to? Who is gonna give money to someone after they have already been burned? Who is gonna recommend doing business with that person in the future? Steven was right when he said games spread by word of mouth of the players in the gaming community. Can also backfire just as quickly if not quicker as it took off.
Those .99s everywhere are annoying as hell. It means sellers view people as morons that only look at the first number of a price tag. Well, perhaps many people are, but I would hope that those will not be playing AoC, at least not in great numbers.
Nicely rounded up prices are much nicer to see.
Something that Intrepid has already done.
So I thank them for that.
I would love to actually see a reply to this and how it will be "worded out".
anyone els noticing the, we probably gonna do this. (then they do this) or we will do it this way. and then they do it another way. this is starting to become a habit of theirs
id love to see what happens if they continue this trend of theirs
They can and will try to spin anything.
Wand of Many Things instead of free or "reasonable discount" is just bizarre.
No way they can spin that for me.
But, I'm really backing development of the game design - regardless of whether the game becomes vaporware or I find the implementation of the features to be enjoyable.
I want the SOE/Daybreak devs to gain experience working on the concepts so that they can better apply what the learn and discover in the future.
With Ashes... or some other MMORPG.
But, as with Landmark and EQNext - the devs have to show us what they actually do, not just tell us what they think they'd like to do.
For me, they will be judged on what they do; not on what they say.
Originally, I believe there was something said about making an announcement at the beginning of the following week that never happened. I feel like the people that were not completely outraged were placated by this suggestion and weren't too surprised when the announcement didn't when expected because so many other announcements and fixes have had long delays.
As far as the pricing goes, I think it's too high. $452 isn't reasonable, not to me at least. I had believed, like many other kickstarter pledges believed, we were going to get these rewards for free. I think its hilarious that our compensation has been downgraded from a package they believe is worth $452 to all pledges getting the wand of many things. I'd much rather have the summer exclusive items I thought I was going to receive than some wand.