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Do you think that age will matter?

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  • Interesting topic and I must say as I get older my only concern is if the guild has good people. I do not care what age you are if you treat people with respect then I want to be apart of it. I am not for or against age restrictions but I can not imagine you will find it too difficult to find a good guild if you are respectful and no how to play whatever class you choose. Respect and knowledge of play are much more important then age.

    Good luck on your seeking of the perfect guild for you!
  • @Sintu Thanks, all of the you peoples comments have helped my confidence with trying out for guilds :wink:
  • @Ketchup
    Most people don't care, as long as you're polite, respectful, courteous, etc. I've had guildies in our guilds as young as 15, and they were great kids; conversely, I've had guildies in their 30s who weren't so great.

    You'll find a couple of different types of players in MMOs, as you go along. The first is the players like myself and @Possum, and oh-so-many others. For a great deal of us, the game is played for love of the game, and our guilds are built around people who also love the game. We socialize, we hang out, we explore together, we work together to achieve things. For others, the game is only an outlet to get names on leaderboards, and for the recognition. Many people try one, realize it's not for them, and then try the other. It's all a personal preference thing. 

    I do recommend you always remember a couple of things:

    Hang with people who have similar tastes and experiences to your own
    Hang with people who treat you like you're someone before they ask things of you
    Hang with people who work to build you up, rather than tear you down
    Hang with people who will make you work for things, but still help you along the way

    Also, and this is a really big one, especially as you enter your MMO career; hang with people who don't mind answering a bajillion questions, and never treat you badly for asking them. Best of luck to you, and welcome!
  • Now I just feel old.
  • Nocht said:
    Now I just feel old.
    No need to, I think games bring people together as they are interested in the same things. To some people age matters but I try not to think it does :smile:
  • Isende said:
    @Ketchup
    Most people don't care, as long as you're polite, respectful, courteous, etc. I've had guildies in our guilds as young as 15, and they were great kids; conversely, I've had guildies in their 30s who weren't so great.

    You'll find a couple of different types of players in MMOs, as you go along. The first is the players like myself and @Possum, and oh-so-many others. For a great deal of us, the game is played for love of the game, and our guilds are built around people who also love the game. We socialize, we hang out, we explore together, we work together to achieve things. For others, the game is only an outlet to get names on leaderboards, and for the recognition. Many people try one, realize it's not for them, and then try the other. It's all a personal preference thing. 

    I do recommend you always remember a couple of things:

    Hang with people who have similar tastes and experiences to your own
    Hang with people who treat you like you're someone before they ask things of you
    Hang with people who work to build you up, rather than tear you down
    Hang with people who will make you work for things, but still help you along the way

    Also, and this is a really big one, especially as you enter your MMO career; hang with people who don't mind answering a bajillion questions, and never treat you badly for asking them. Best of luck to you, and welcome!
    Really good advice here
  • Ah the Age question.  

    Once upon a time, the Internets were young, and so was I, and I would come upon a button that said 'you must be 18 or older to continue' and I wasn't 18 yet

    ... and I sat there and stared at the button...

    what if i pressed it... would they know?

    Could they find me?  Would they tell my parents?  Would everyone on the interweb know I'd lied?

    All those possibilities seemed highly unlikely.   Yet I never pressed the button.

    Who can say why?  Some weird nonsensical morality inhabiting my mind (long gone now, mind you).

    I'm sure some of the 18+ requests you see are just a matter of legal liability.  Nobody enjoys being on the other end of a conversation with somebody's parent who wants to know why you're filling their poor child's head with 'filth'.  I've known of smaller scale  'role playing' games that have had to shut down over flak they received because a parent didn't like what they saw. 

    A lot of it is also personal bias.  I do personally think that age as a number has become irrelevant.  I've met my share of intelligent and personable eight-year-olds, mature and clever teenagers, and no small number of 30-something trolls, living in the room down the hall from their mom's room, because not all mothers have basements. 

    Youth comes with a number of stigmas attached to it.   Inexperience, Emotional instability, lack of reliability, parental interference.and of course that one 'friend' who is a jerk and ruins everything, but you just have to include him because the two of you are 'bros'.

    All that stuff can really apply to most age groups. Just replace parental interference with child interference... or fiancee interference, etc.  but it can be natural to suppose you might be able to minimize those issues by excluding a certain age group.

    To that I say, 'meh'.

    The moment i set foot online, I'm a different person than I am in the real world. All of us are, to some extent.  But the fact is, you really can be anyone you choose.  We're here to imagine something impossible, so why be restricted by reality?

    Don't be 15.. Be 100.  or 150.  Be a boy or be a girl or be a squirrel... well, maybe this isn't the right game for you if you want to be a squirrel, but then again, maybe there will be a guild for that.  My avatar is a fish. Am I a fish?
    You don't know for sure, do you?  Trump is the president. I could be a fish.

    Age is relative.  If i saw Ketchup on a table, and it said on the label that the Ketchup was 15 years old, i'd be like 'Daaaaaaamn, that is some old Ketchup.'  I wouldn't be putting that on my fries, but if it wanted to join my guild, I wouldn't be asking its age. 

    What am I talking about?  I've lost my train of thought... happens a lot in my dotage ^^

    Well, when joining a guild, I think one of the principle concerns for me anyway, has less to do with people's ages and more to do with their availability - and with mine.

    As it stands I have a pretty busy life in the real world.  I don't actually know how much time i'll have to put into an MMO.. even for right now I couldn't be sure, and i'm trying to guess about what it'll be like a year and a half from now.  

    A lot can change in a year and a half. Particularly when you're 15.   You seem certainly to have found a good community to grow with though!

    Cheers!


      



  • I really hope age doesn't matter. I just turned 47...
  • Maturity is more important than age when it comes to social behavior. Age only matters when it comes to legal things... like talking about adult topics. I imagine that is the main reason they restrict to 18+, that way they don't have to worry about someone's mom popping in and yelling at them for talking about sex positions in guild chat.
  • Wraeven said:
    Ah the Age question.  

    Once upon a time, the Internets were young, and so was I, and I would come upon a button that said 'you must be 18 or older to continue' and I wasn't 18 yet

    ... and I sat there and stared at the button...

    what if i pressed it... would they know?

    Could they find me?  Would they tell my parents?  Would everyone on the interweb know I'd lied?

    All those possibilities seemed highly unlikely.   Yet I never pressed the button.

    Who can say why?  Some weird nonsensical morality inhabiting my mind (long gone now, mind you).

    I'm sure some of the 18+ requests you see are just a matter of legal liability.  Nobody enjoys being on the other end of a conversation with somebody's parent who wants to know why you're filling their poor child's head with 'filth'.  I've known of smaller scale  'role playing' games that have had to shut down over flak they received because a parent didn't like what they saw. 

    A lot of it is also personal bias.  I do personally think that age as a number has become irrelevant.  I've met my share of intelligent and personable eight-year-olds, mature and clever teenagers, and no small number of 30-something trolls, living in the room down the hall from their mom's room, because not all mothers have basements. 

    Youth comes with a number of stigmas attached to it.   Inexperience, Emotional instability, lack of reliability, parental interference.and of course that one 'friend' who is a jerk and ruins everything, but you just have to include him because the two of you are 'bros'.

    All that stuff can really apply to most age groups. Just replace parental interference with child interference... or fiancee interference, etc.  but it can be natural to suppose you might be able to minimize those issues by excluding a certain age group.

    To that I say, 'meh'.

    The moment i set foot online, I'm a different person than I am in the real world. All of us are, to some extent.  But the fact is, you really can be anyone you choose.  We're here to imagine something impossible, so why be restricted by reality?

    Don't be 15.. Be 100.  or 150.  Be a boy or be a girl or be a squirrel... well, maybe this isn't the right game for you if you want to be a squirrel, but then again, maybe there will be a guild for that.  My avatar is a fish. Am I a fish?
    You don't know for sure, do you?  Trump is the president. I could be a fish.

    Age is relative.  If i saw Ketchup on a table, and it said on the label that the Ketchup was 15 years old, i'd be like 'Daaaaaaamn, that is some old Ketchup.'  I wouldn't be putting that on my fries, but if it wanted to join my guild, I wouldn't be asking its age. 

    What am I talking about?  I've lost my train of thought... happens a lot in my dotage ^^

    Well, when joining a guild, I think one of the principle concerns for me anyway, has less to do with people's ages and more to do with their availability - and with mine.

    As it stands I have a pretty busy life in the real world.  I don't actually know how much time i'll have to put into an MMO.. even for right now I couldn't be sure, and i'm trying to guess about what it'll be like a year and a half from now.  

    A lot can change in a year and a half. Particularly when you're 15.   You seem certainly to have found a good community to grow with though!

    Cheers!


      



    Thanks, I appreciate your help and everyone else's @Wraeven :wink:
  • It just depends how on the guild is ran, most are 18+ to avoid drama. But... Funny thing is drama is usually in those guilds anyways lol. (not all guilds of course)
  • Like I've said, the 18+ is probably just to not have to deal with obnoxious parents. Otherwise maturity is the only thing that matters.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    Nocht said:
    Now I just feel old.
    GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!.......cough......ughhhh.....I mean hail, fellow player!
  • To original OP, the requirement for over 18 players in a guild is not so often about the age per say but for the intent of maturity. 

    The mere fact you have asked on the forums in a polite and constructive manner demonstrates a maturity.

    There will be plenty of clans.

    Therefore I am certain there will be plenty of guilds that will either accept you or provide exceptions.
  • As far as I know, the 18+ restriction for most guilds is only there to suggest adult behavior. Funnily enough, sometimes the oldest people in a guild do not respect this rule. If you can manage not to annoy everyone in a guild, you should be fine. Maybe some guilds will be stubborn, but there are always ones that are more open and can be talked to.
  • I can say that many guilds "officially" recruit only 18+, not because of the game itself, but rather due to an extra content, like community discord channels where 18+ content is often shared in many forms, text, photos, etc.

    That said, this doesn't mean these guilds will never recruit any member below 18, but they still officially state only 18+ are recruited just to emphasize what kind of content is available in community.

    However maturity of the player is most important, so 18+ recruitment often has exceptions.
  • Gothix said:
    I can say that many guilds "officially" recruit only 18+, not because of the game itself, but rather due to an extra content, like community discord channels where 18+ content is often shared in many forms, text, photos, etc.

    That said, this doesn't mean these guilds will never recruit any member below 18, but they still officially state only 18+ are recruited just to emphasize what kind of content is available in community.

    However maturity of the player is most important, so 18+ recruitment often has exceptions.
    Yeah, from  what I've seen from a lot of these replies is that its a maturity and content thing, I was really asking the question as this is going to be my first MMORPG which I want to dedicate a lot of time to. Thanks for the advice 
  • Ketchup said:

    Thanks for your time :blush:
    Age has nothing to do with it. Its how mature you are. 
    This is the most correct answer.

    I have met some 15 year olds that acted like they were 30 and some 40 years olds that acted like they were 12.

    It's all about maturity. As others have pointed out, if you act like a typical adolescent teen that is rude, creates unnecessary drama, makes sexual jokes every 5 secs, whiny, etc then people will not want you in their guild.
  • I will just add some examples of guilds I have led or been in.  All of them had a 30+ age restriction.  For exactly the reasons mentioned above.  We wanted a certain level of maturity.  Why 30+, because that was the number we liked.  There were people 30+ that did not get in or got removed quickly and there were exceptions that remained in the guild for long periods of time and some that are still members.  The youngest that I ever remember getting in was 17.  A quite mature 17 but still 17.

    My advice is that honesty about your age regardless of the age restriction with the recruiters and officers.  It goes a long way to establishing maturity.  The way you approached this post is how you should approach recruitment.  You do not have to advertise your age but you should not have to hide it either.  And once the guild gets to know you and accepts you, no one cares what ages is after that.
  • When I join a guild, for me, it's more important the people in it, than the progress said guild have made in a game. In general there is (or should be) a massive difference in life experience between a 18-20 year old and a 30-32. Therefore values/priorities differ between these two age groups and that is usually shown in chat (text or voice). Now I have nothing against people younger/older than me, I have quite a few such friends, it's just that you can't connect the same with them. I guess all this is quite implicit and what I wanted to say can be summarized with "birds of a feather flock together".

  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    I started playing MMORPGS when I was 10 (hello Everquest) and I'm 30 now and in January I'll be 31. Back then, for us, MMORPGs were a very niche thing, very few people played them and those of that did were the black sheep of gamers.

    When World of Warcraft came out-- as much as I despise the game -- It changed the MMORPG market for better or for worse. People started to flood to the black sheep genre and it became a very main stream thing to do.

    What was something we all got laughed at for enjoying and you didn't admit you did like some bad drug addiction, now was cool and all that to be.

    Most of us vets have gotten fairly use, I would think, to the new generation of gamers. They do, for me, sometimes ruffle my feathers a bit, but I blame that on being a woman and long history of issues with male gamers due my competitive side. However, given how many vets we DO have joining this game-- I think really you'll be fine.

    The upside of us is, we remember what it was like back then and for many of us even remember what it was like to be around that age and gaming. It just come down to the attitude your present,the guild, and if you want to hang with the mature crowd, then-- just be polite and mature.

    Most young gamers at least try to be polite and don't act like some know-it-all, tends to go far with me, I know, and I tend to actually be more willing to forgive their moments of immaturity; And heck. We can even be immature at times, soooo... Can't be to hypocritical.

    As the saying goes, age is just a number. Maturity comes from life experience. So, in my book. You'll be fine. :)
  • Loyheta said:
    Maturity is more important than age when it comes to social behavior. Age only matters when it comes to legal things... like talking about adult topics. I imagine that is the main reason they restrict to 18+, that way they don't have to worry about someone's mom popping in and yelling at them for talking about sex positions in guild chat.
    Bwuahahahahaha, see now a fair amount of the 'mature' chat I've had in recent weeks have all involved all of the pitfalls of growing older, it's not just sex subjects or insults that require maturity, it's being able to cope with discussions about medical subjects too. 

    But @Ketchup  everyone here has already said it, you'll find more 'mature' subjects in 18+ guilds but they'll normally also expect you to have a more mature attitude too towards the guild, ie giving as well as taking, or recognizing the importance of turning up or not disappearing right in the middle of an event that's been planned for weeks.....

    But yeah, I've been in guilds with 20 year olds who had the maturity of a five year old or young teenages with absolutely guild leader class maturity and skills.

    Good luck :D


  • Megs said:
    Loyheta said:
    Maturity is more important than age when it comes to social behavior. Age only matters when it comes to legal things... like talking about adult topics. I imagine that is the main reason they restrict to 18+, that way they don't have to worry about someone's mom popping in and yelling at them for talking about sex positions in guild chat.
    Bwuahahahahaha, see now a fair amount of the 'mature' chat I've had in recent weeks have all involved all of the pitfalls of growing older, it's not just sex subjects or insults that require maturity, it's being able to cope with discussions about medical subjects too. 

    But @Ketchup  everyone here has already said it, you'll find more 'mature' subjects in 18+ guilds but they'll normally also expect you to have a more mature attitude too towards the guild, ie giving as well as taking, or recognizing the importance of turning up or not disappearing right in the middle of an event that's been planned for weeks.....

    But yeah, I've been in guilds with 20 year olds who had the maturity of a five year old or young teenages with absolutely guild leader class maturity and skills.

    Good luck :D


    Thanks, I've made it in a guild and they are really nice and fun to talk to. I just have to wait for another 2 years to see them in game hahaha
  • Ketchup said:
    Megs said:
    Loyheta said:
    Maturity is more important than age when it comes to social behavior. Age only matters when it comes to legal things... like talking about adult topics. I imagine that is the main reason they restrict to 18+, that way they don't have to worry about someone's mom popping in and yelling at them for talking about sex positions in guild chat.
    Bwuahahahahaha, see now a fair amount of the 'mature' chat I've had in recent weeks have all involved all of the pitfalls of growing older, it's not just sex subjects or insults that require maturity, it's being able to cope with discussions about medical subjects too. 

    But @Ketchup  everyone here has already said it, you'll find more 'mature' subjects in 18+ guilds but they'll normally also expect you to have a more mature attitude too towards the guild, ie giving as well as taking, or recognizing the importance of turning up or not disappearing right in the middle of an event that's been planned for weeks.....

    But yeah, I've been in guilds with 20 year olds who had the maturity of a five year old or young teenages with absolutely guild leader class maturity and skills.

    Good luck :D


    Thanks, I've made it in a guild and they are really nice and fun to talk to. I just have to wait for another 2 years to see them in game hahaha
    Well, gratz :) A lot can change in 2 years but change isn't necessarily a bad thing. If this guild makes you want to play a greater role in the community than that's great. Enjoy it ^^.
  • Kratz said:
    Ketchup said:
    Megs said:
    Loyheta said:
    Maturity is more important than age when it comes to social behavior. Age only matters when it comes to legal things... like talking about adult topics. I imagine that is the main reason they restrict to 18+, that way they don't have to worry about someone's mom popping in and yelling at them for talking about sex positions in guild chat.
    Bwuahahahahaha, see now a fair amount of the 'mature' chat I've had in recent weeks have all involved all of the pitfalls of growing older, it's not just sex subjects or insults that require maturity, it's being able to cope with discussions about medical subjects too. 

    But @Ketchup  everyone here has already said it, you'll find more 'mature' subjects in 18+ guilds but they'll normally also expect you to have a more mature attitude too towards the guild, ie giving as well as taking, or recognizing the importance of turning up or not disappearing right in the middle of an event that's been planned for weeks.....

    But yeah, I've been in guilds with 20 year olds who had the maturity of a five year old or young teenages with absolutely guild leader class maturity and skills.

    Good luck :D


    Thanks, I've made it in a guild and they are really nice and fun to talk to. I just have to wait for another 2 years to see them in game hahaha
    Well, gratz :) A lot can change in 2 years but change isn't necessarily a bad thing. If this guild makes you want to play a greater role in the community than that's great. Enjoy it ^^.
    Thank you! :smiley::wink:
  • I started playing MMORPGS when I was 10 (hello Everquest) and I'm 30 now and in January I'll be 31. Back then, for us, MMORPGs were a very niche thing, very few people played them and those of that did were the black sheep of gamers.
    I'll also be 31 in January :smile: I started off with SWG when I was a teen (didn't have internet for the longest time)
  • I have a long standing rule to avoid any guild that has Dark, Elite, or Shadow in the name like the plague. Maybe I will get lucky and we will see <Dark Elite Shadows> for the perfect **** trifecta.

    Dark Shadows is an awesome old horror soap opera.


  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited July 2017
    Ketchup said:
    You see, I am 15 years old and I am wanting to start playing MMORPG's and I, at the moment, is playing others to gain experience. I have seen a lot of guilds that are only publishing for 18+ but do you think that age matters in this game? I'm just wondering as I have never asked this question before and I am asking this question to see if people can give there opinion on the ages in MMORPG's. :wink: 
    Thanks for your time :blush:

    Just lie about your age if  you have to but it's likely you'll be 18 or close to it by the time Ashes launches.......
  • Ketchup said:
    You see, I am 15 years old and I am wanting to start playing MMORPG's and I, at the moment, is playing others to gain experience. I have seen a lot of guilds that are only publishing for 18+ but do you think that age matters in this game? I'm just wondering as I have never asked this question before and I am asking this question to see if people can give there opinion on the ages in MMORPG's. :wink: 
    Thanks for your time :blush:
    First off. welcome to the forums!  It all depends on you.  Some guilds will make exceptions for younger people depending on the person's maturity level.  It's a known fact that age doesn't determine maturity, actions do.    


  • @Ketchup congratulations on finding a guild and I am glad you are enjoying it.  I hope it works out.  My last piece of advice is enjoy the good times with your guild and hold those in your memories and if bad times do arise, remember the good times.  The good memories will help you when the bad times crop up.  And if it does not get better, find another group to enjoy the good times with.
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