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Renamed Classes
Xrael
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I renamed some of the classes, yet again. However, I changed it significantly this time based on community suggestions. What do you guys think?
https://imgur.com/a/OQ1Gr7f
Also, did Steven actually say that class names won't be changed? I really hope that that's not the case as some of these class names could really be improved upon. Maybe some of these are temporary names that were given to classes because they weren't fully fledged out yet.
https://imgur.com/a/OQ1Gr7f
Also, did Steven actually say that class names won't be changed? I really hope that that's not the case as some of these class names could really be improved upon. Maybe some of these are temporary names that were given to classes because they weren't fully fledged out yet.
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Maybe there is an inherent thoughtprocess behind the naming of classes that you just don't get so far?
In the end, names are just names, they won't change the game.
That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die.
The developer likes the names he came up with and there is a reason why those names are what they are.
You've basically tried to rename things without any understand of why the classes have the names they do.
And if you don't realize what you've done, you've literally told the Creative Director that you are smarter than him and can do his job better, even though he has the 4k page Game Design Document and you don't.
Hello, Jahlon. Love your channel!
The only class name I have issue with is Tank, because the word Tank is something we use, because of association with the military vehicle of the same name. Since those military vehicles tend not to exist in fantasy settings (they're rather modern-ish tech), I feel like the word itself might be a bit immersion breaking or not make much sense from a roleplay/canon perspective.
That is unless tanks (the vehicle) 'do' exist in some form or description in AoC.
Do you know if that might be the case?
Thanks.
Inb4 the tank archetype is in fact an engineer in a tank.
Wow someone's salty. Listen buddy. Its not just me. A lot of people feel like some of the classes can be renamed. I'm not saying that I'm smarter than the Creative Director, all I'm saying is some of the names can be improved upon. There are a billion classes with Shadow in their names. Some classes sound like abilities/items. No one can be the best at everything. Maybe Steven couldn't find the right terms, I don't know, but the bottom line is some of them need to be changed and a community can help him do so. If you don't have any constructive criticism to give, don't type. Maybe if you had this much attitude in your videos, you might rake in more views.
I said it earlier, do you really know how the classes will play out? Or do you judge just from the archetype combinations? You can't know how the augments will change a class, so chill until you know.
And also again, it is just names. Completely irrelevant to the gameplay if you're not a hardcore RP fan.
Are you serious? Are you actually ok with having 6 classes with Shadow in their name? Is that really the only thing about rogues that you can think of? Do you actually think that Tellsword, Siren and Magician are good bard class names? Do Nightspell and Spellshield sound more like classes or abilties? What about Spellstone and Nightshield? Are they classes or items?
I understand that class gameplay hasn't been showcased yet but we know what the archetypes are and what they do. The names that i mentioned above do not suit the constituting archetypes whatsoever, no matter how you design their classes.
I'd love to tell you that I'm alone on this topic, but I'm not. A lot of the community wants to see some of these classes renamed as there are far better names out there than the ones that were chosen.
I made this post to see people's opinions on the class names that me and some others came up with. The community wants some of these classes to be renamed, to no one's surprise, hence why i made this post. But here you have this guy, over reacting to it. That's why I told him not to type.
I like them all more than yours to be honest. Like in which world is a virtuoso a magical musician? A commander is someone who leads soldiers nothing more. Naturalist sounds like purist. Why should a cleric and a ranger be an apostle rather than a Protector (of Nature)?
I could go on and on about it.
And now you're trying to have a go at Jahlon?
Wooo boy. At least your left predator alone this time lol
Jesus. A virtuoso is - a person highly skilled in music or another artistic pursuit. So that's your first point invalidated.
A commander can command soldiers. Guess what a summoner can do? Maybe summon different types of soldiers (soldiers can be ANYTHING)? Definitely sounds a lot better to me than a Keeper if you're going to be doing any kind of summoning with this class. There goes your second point.
A Naturalist is a mage that utilizes nature magic, makes sense if you focus on the ranger part of it more than the archer part. But this was definitely one of the harder ones to come up with a name for, so you win this one.
When's the last time you heard of a ranged protector? Probably 0 times. Protectors are Melee tanks/off tanks that PROTECT. That's why I swapped them. You could easily choose to swap apostle to something like Celestial/Credence Hunter as well but I didn't want to add any more hunters to class names. So there goes your fourth point.
And the fact that you have absolutely no problem with having 6 classes with Shadow in their name shows that creativity is not exactly your suite. Rogues aren't relegated to shadows alone. Understand that first.
So basically, one of your points made sense while the rest was gibberish. But ill take the feedback, thank you.
I'm not trying to go AT anyone. I merely responded the way you respond to people that talk like they're above everyone else.
The reason I left predator alone was because majority of the community didn't want it to be changed.
Are you serious? Google what a vigilante means before you type. A vigilante is NOT a tank.
I dunno...
Batman has a tank.
Further if Devs said they won't change them, they won't. They are building an MMO. They don't have time to go back and rename classes. I think we should focus our feedback on more productive things like balance, effectiveness in group play, etc etc..
That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die.
Just leave it how it currently is and basta. No need to waste energy into something you can't make right.
NOOOOOO. A vigilante is a mercenary. Someone who takes justice into his own hands. Someone who can be paid to kill people. They are not tanks LMAO.
But most agree that some class names have to be changed. The sooner you do this, the stronger the attachment the community forms with each of these classes. That's all i'm saying. I don't believe that the names that i presented above are the best names that can be chosen for some of these classes, but I do believe that SOME of them are far better than the ones that currently exist.
It's his suggestion/opinion... and dont twist his words.
Some classes and their stuff are still in concept stage and it can be changed or not during alpha/beta test phases.
Druid would be better name class option than a Protector of Nature. That's what Druids are, they are protectors of nature.
NOOOO, don't make that mistake. Druids are of elven origin, they can't just be of any race. That ruins their lore, lore that has been maintained across several games. Don't make druids a class, but make it into a type of augment or if you are going to make it a class, i recommend restricting it to the elven race.