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I think “Tank” is much worse in comparison to the other names. I’m willing to overlook the other names if they agreed to change “Tank” lol. A lot of their subclass names are pretty straight forward and plain, but at least It makes sense. I may have been exaggerating my statement saying they were named well a bit to try and get my point across xD.
No, because those are not archetypes.
Tank is not a class name, and it's not just gamer jargon, it's a archetype name that describe it's role.
So is a Bard, Cleric, Rogue, Ranger, Summoner, Fighter, Mage AND Tank, people immediately know what their role will consist of.
And don't forget, the gamer jargon of Tank is meat shield, while defender is definitely not a archetype and is a class.
In the end, i really don't see why people are trying to turn that into an issue when your class name will be one of the 8 other ones.
U.S. East
So unless there is going to be a strict RP server, you will have to put up with "Tank" along side things like "DPS class", poor character naming (which is 1000% WORSE imho), people talking about jumping on discord in open channel, etc.
Yeah, I getcha. I think you saw me go back and forth plenty of times in the corruption threads. People trying to get core mechanics of the game changed in contrast to the vision of the developers has become more pervasive and obnoxious for sure. I don't think this one name change request is really a qualifying exmaple imo though.
The issue with Healbot is that the Devs don't want Heal bots, or, Buff Bots. And Bard can also heal to a lesser degree than Cleric. Cleric is DPS/Heal and Bard is DPS/Buff.
It's not really like it's that big of a deal no, but please tell me this part...
"Tank is not a class name, and it's not just gamer jargon, it's a archetype name that describe it's role.
So is a Bard, Cleric, Rogue, Ranger, Summoner, Fighter, Mage AND Tank, people immediately know what their role will consist of."
Is a joke right?
Bard, Cleric, rogue, ranger, summoner, fighter, and mage are not archetype names that describe a role. They are class names that have commonly been used in MMOs and RPGs in the past. Tank on the other hand is in fact a term gamers came up with (jargon) to describe the role of heavily defensive characters, who's job it was to hold aggro and literally "tank" the damage. The others are all classes, which have fallen into various roles in the past, those roles being support, healer, or various forms of DPS.
While true that anyone can look at these 8 names and pretty much expect to know what their role will be, only one of them is literally named after a role.
Exactly, because that's the point !
They want that when people will launch the game to create their character that the archetype describes their role.
Tank is a perfect archetype name for the role , the issue doesn't lie with "we could name cleric healer instead" ( which i would be fine with ), the issue is there's no other name that fits the archetype role that describes it as good as simply "Tank"
But i'm all ears...what would you call the "meat shield / tank " archetype that describes it role WITHOUT making it sound like a class (so the others mentioned in this thread that i've seen is defender and warlord, which is a big no)
You cant say that things like Defender or Protector would have been better or easier to understand.
Wait am i misunderstanding something or are you ?
Because i didn't say those would had been better...?
Since i said " i've seen is defender and warlord, which is a big no"
If Verra has a clear history and lore of modern day tanks driving around in their past before the Apocalypse or whatever the story is. Then yes, the word “Tank” would make more sense. But, if they ever retroactively added that into the game or made it part of the story it would be super lame and a poor excuse to fill in some lore gaps for their sorry excuse of a name “Tank” lol.
Tank means i jump at them like a moron and piss everyone off. Feels better.
U.S. East
If that was the case, there would be 4 options; Tank, DPS, Healer, and Mixyboi. I like 'Guard' personally!
Just examples from the top of my head^^ Did an error, meant to say "You cant tell me that x wouldnt have been better then Tank."
Protector and Defender can be substituted with Guardian
But people also want something that sounds a bit better then just "Tank".
Everyone has the typical nice mmorpg class names and then comes Tank...
They could have called the Fighter something like Hitter in the same way.
Because they hit things.
YES!
You would think something as simple as this would be pointless, but imagine if they named everything in the game without much thought. People take notice and it bothers them subconsciously. If they named all the cities, npc, territories, and bosses all really lame names people would take note and it would bother them. “Tank” just seems like a lack of effort, an error with consistency, or disregard for true fantasy immersion. It’s like the first boss we encountered was just named “Dragon”.
They also shouted "looking for healer" not "looking for cleric."
U.S. East
But what if they don't and this is actually pretty insignificant. If you start out as a tank and then you choose to double down on it as a 2nd archetype, you become a Guardian. Is anyone really going to never pass level 25 or never pick up a secondary archetype?
I feel like if we gonna pick a name to fuss over about it should at least be Keeper (Tank + Summoner). Cuz I know he ain't one. That ain't my man's.
We don’t know how the class as a whole will be referred to. When looking for party members it may be “looking for tank”. Could mean any of the subclasses or it could be that another class takes “tank” as it’s secondary and can legitimately still tank without it being its main role. Just an example, but it could get annoying and confusing. Also, people just learning the game may have a preconceived notion that “Tanks” will only ever tank. That may be the intended case, but what if it turns out that tank + a certain sub class is a better option for healing, dps, or utility?
But then we'd only have 16 classes
That said, i know it's a bit tongue in cheek of you but you're looking at it way too simplistically , because a role is more then just a combat role, it's a package of multiple things, there's first and foremost the roleplaying aspect, a combat aspect and a utility aspect (and probably other things i can't think of right now.)
In short sure "dps" is doing damage, but a player still won't know how he will do it.