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List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back

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    Nagash wrote: »
    I wonder if gathering body parts counts as griefing?

    I hope not, that was an enjoyable action back in Ultima Online. Chopping up bodies and keeping the parts. A mantle full of heads being the obvious classic. But also fun was to take their leg and leave it by the bank in town for all to see the shame of their loss in battle!
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    Nagash wrote: »
    I wonder if gathering body parts counts as griefing?

    Nope, it counts as harvesting.
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    akabearakabear Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    edited December 2020
    Griefing the griefer would be a good call!
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    NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Nagash wrote: »
    I wonder if gathering body parts counts as griefing?

    Nope, it counts as harvesting.

    Perfect *dave! get the saw and the bone jell, we have work to do*
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    Sum12hateSum12hate Member, Alpha One, Adventurer

    If they are too close to my freehold for my liking (get of my lawn!)

    If I'm trying to tame beasties to build up breeding stock for my stable and they start trying to wipe the herd for a "grind point"

    If they are a cleric wandering all alone

    If I think they are streaming..

    Hmm.. when I started this I thought I would bring valid points but now I'm starting to think I may be a prick
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    They're being way too obnoxious with gathering a resource.
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    PlagueMonkPlagueMonk Member
    edited December 2020
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    I think the bigger question here is, why this obsession with bakery products/ accoutrements and the desire to kill others over them. This concerns me greatly. :*
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    ILLPeonUILLPeonU Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Somebody that has something I desire!

    Someone who has stolen from me in the past!

    A streamer (just because)

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    Pannath wrote: »
    -It was monday

    Big mood.
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    MichaelMichael Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Competition is the primary reason for most of my PvP interactions. Competition and monetary reward.
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    I would murder someone if I feel like it might benefit me in some way (to take their stuff) or if I don't like that player because they've annoyed me in the past, or if I think they might be a spy, or if someone pays me to, or if I just feel like it.
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    NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack
    if I think they might be a spy
    This seems like a fairly bad reason to kill someone in a game like Ashes.

    If I suspect someone is a spy, I am going to start slowly feeding them bad intel, when the guild this player is spying for start to see that the info from their spy is often bad, and I am going to use my counter spy in that guild to suggest that the player in question actually did have the correct info. This will lead to the spys guild assuming they have turned, which will likely lead to them being either removed from the guild completely, or highly distrusted from that point on.

    Killing their character just seems so... pointless.
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    AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Noaani wrote: »
    if I think they might be a spy
    This seems like a fairly bad reason to kill someone in a game like Ashes.

    If I suspect someone is a spy, I am going to start slowly feeding them bad intel, when the guild this player is spying for start to see that the info from their spy is often bad, and I am going to use my counter spy in that guild to suggest that the player in question actually did have the correct info. This will lead to the spys guild assuming they have turned, which will likely lead to them being either removed from the guild completely, or highly distrusted from that point on.

    Killing their character just seems so... pointless.
    It depends on how they are spying.

    If they are hanging around, trying to get into everyone's good graces, then yes trying to set them up with false info is a good idea.

    If they are scouting though, poking around and trying to look at defenses and getting other visual info, you want to kill them ASAP before they can learn anymore.
     
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    MakinojiMakinoji Member, Warrior of Old, Kickstarter
    BC it's a pvp game
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    NoaaniNoaani Member, Intrepid Pack
    Atama wrote: »
    Noaani wrote: »
    if I think they might be a spy
    This seems like a fairly bad reason to kill someone in a game like Ashes.

    If I suspect someone is a spy, I am going to start slowly feeding them bad intel, when the guild this player is spying for start to see that the info from their spy is often bad, and I am going to use my counter spy in that guild to suggest that the player in question actually did have the correct info. This will lead to the spys guild assuming they have turned, which will likely lead to them being either removed from the guild completely, or highly distrusted from that point on.

    Killing their character just seems so... pointless.
    It depends on how they are spying.

    If they are hanging around, trying to get into everyone's good graces, then yes trying to set them up with false info is a good idea.

    If they are scouting though, poking around and trying to look at defenses and getting other visual info, you want to kill them ASAP before they can learn anymore.

    A scout I would kill, for sure.
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    Noaani wrote: »

    A scout I would kill, for sure.

    Not if they're in your guild or alliance at least before they can be removed... dundundun...
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    IzilIzil Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    edited December 2020
    1. Seeing player(s) grinding mats that tries to avoid confrontation (when confronted) is just sad and should be killed (freekill imo)
    2. If player is not in some sort of NAP or alliance with my guild AND refuse to give me money when i ask for it then its reason enough to attack imo
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    RavudhaRavudha Member
    edited December 2020
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?
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    NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    *clap* *clap*
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    AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes
     
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    NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?
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    The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
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    AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?

    You have no business dealing in the world of cereal.
     
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    NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?

    You have no business dealing in the world of cereal.

    But it has milk :'(
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    The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
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    It looks like you are cerealizing this conversation.
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    AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?

    You have no business dealing in the world of cereal.

    But it has milk :'(
    If you need to fortify yourself with calcium I recommend a milk bath then.
     
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    If I go to tag a mob for a quest and some asshole is tagging all of them in the area. I'm killing him for being an asshole. xD It is against mmo etiquette to do so at the expense of other players you will most likely be playing a lot with. I will especially do it if tagging is completely unbalanced. So if you do that and you get stunned part way through and die to creeps that will probably be why from me.

    Otherwise I'll probably never do it. PvP isn't really fun when either side is forced into it. It's most fun vs actual PvPers after all. Organized PvP will always be the best form of PvP and people will probably be doing a lot of that with caravans anyway.
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    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?

    You have no business dealing in the world of cereal.

    But it has milk :'(
    If you need to fortify yourself with calcium I recommend a milk bath then.

    I admit, I took some damage reading this string of bad puns. :s
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    Yuyukoyay wrote: »
    If I go to tag a mob for a quest and some asshole is tagging all of them in the area. I'm killing him for being an asshole. xD It is against mmo etiquette to do so at the expense of other players you will most likely be playing a lot with. I will especially do it if tagging is completely unbalanced. So if you do that and you get stunned part way through and die to creeps that will probably be why from me.

    Otherwise I'll probably never do it. PvP isn't really fun when either side is forced into it. It's most fun vs actual PvPers after all. Organized PvP will always be the best form of PvP and people will probably be doing a lot of that with caravans anyway.

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    AtamaAtama Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Question for the next Q&A... Will Ashes have a "wet willy" emote?
     
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    NagashNagash Member, Leader of Men, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Nagash wrote: »
    Atama wrote: »
    Ravudha wrote: »
    Heya folks! Let's bring this on back around to the original question/topic at hand, "List the reasons why you would PK somebody that doesn't wanna fight back", rather than going back and forth on semantics here ;)

    Here's my list...

    I would PK:
    1. Someone who burnt my toast
    2. Someone who stole all my butter
    3. Someone who thinks that rye is better than sourdough

    What if a group of people said Frosted Flakes is a better breakfast than toast, would you become...a cereal killer?

    Follow your nose
    It always knows
    The flavor of death
    Where ever it goes

    what if your noses is no longer a thing?

    You have no business dealing in the world of cereal.

    But it has milk :'(
    If you need to fortify yourself with calcium I recommend a milk bath then.

    I do that anyway
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    The dead do not squabble as this land’s rulers do. The dead have no desires, petty jealousies or ambitions. A world of the dead is a world at peace
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