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Petty? Maybe?
What would you like? For me to agree that my tastes and opinions are invalid?
Obviously that is not going to happen.
"The current system makes perfect sense and your suggestion doesn’t “make more sense” within Ashes of Creation’s universe."- @VmanGman
It is like sure, neat, but that does not mean that people can't prefer something else.
Do we really have to put each others subjective tastes on trial?
If I had more time, I would write a shorter post.
I’m done running in circles with you... I’ve presented the facts and you refuse to acknowledge them. Have a good one.
He was the first one on my Ignore List.
Yeah he seems to be creating alot of tension in most popular threads, decided to just not comment on his comments for the sake of not getting into a pointless argument.
He made a valid point opposing yours and your last 3 comments are all entirely shutting it down by saying he's misrepresenting you and such.`
It's beside the point, but I agree completely with him in that ashes reconstituting feels very in line with the lore, and also makes complete sense, though I do also like the idea put forth that they only turn to ash when they revive.
You don't do it in a civil way, sorry to say. You can discuss things whilst remaining neutral, the way you type seems a little more.. hostile? You look at what people type, disagree and then make a passive-agressive remark at them instead of discussing it civilly and perhaps asking why they have that opinion etc.
Examples:
I guess my suggestion is, next time just try to ask yourself what they meant by it before just acting passive-aggressive and throwing snarky comments at them. In general you just seem very negative and you seem to reply especially alot to comments you disagree with. Don't want to come accross as an asshole here, just want to genuinely inform you of how you seem to me and what i think you're doing wrong.
Its not a new point. I did not say this is out of line with the lore. I said it is not what I prefer. I clearly explained what I like more and makes more sense to me many times. Something so subjective needs not to be relentlessly argued. A simple: "I disagree and here is why..." would be great. A constant nagging about how Ashes is not my creation so my preferences are wrong is just silly, and to me worthy of a little dismissal.
If we ignore the fact that @VmanGman has used the worst possible interpretation of everything I have said.
All his arguments boil down to is this: Ashes is not my creation, and thus any preferences I have about how things could be different are wrong. Which is not true. There are plenty of Star Trek and Star Wars fans right now that a pretty upset about how their universes are going, and none of their feelings are invalid. Part of what excites me about ashes is the idea that it has roots in the table top games I love.
I stated that it is not normal for a custom campaign setting to do stuff like this on the material plane(Where Verra is theoretically), and from the prospective of what is normal in Pathfinder/D&D campaign settings this is a little whimsical or fantastical. I also stated that it is fine more than once.
At a some point when you have made your point clear in multiple ways there is just not much more to say. Disagreeing with others opinions is fine. When there is no attempt to be constructive about it. I have to check out. When I detect a attempt at diplomacy I will always treat it in kind, but that has not been what I have been feeling.
If I had more time, I would write a shorter post.
If I am on the right lines there, then the body turning to ash on respawn would make more sense to me than it being an instant thing.
Unless you’re just going to let the player channel the power of creation.
It looks cool and unique so I’m not overly concerned which direction it goes.
Assuming that is true. It makes sense to me.
One of the issues I have with ashes at the time of death is that it makes all of our characters collectively feel like they are less vessels of flesh and more vessels of magic. We might as well all be "ash golems" with the forms of whatever race we are playing.
If it was ashes at time of resurrection. It would show both the actual rebirth, and the gods showing their presences by brining us back to life. All of this without removing flesh from the equation.
One of these is just cooler to me. They are also limiting the ability to have a corpse filled battlefield make sense. You could instead get a desert made of players "ashes" (Which is also cool in its own way), but to me not as powerful a image as a corpse filled battlefield.
If I had more time, I would write a shorter post.
I think the body turning to ash upon respawn would have this effect in most situations, especially in the open world. Any situation where you can’t just instantly click respawn and burst your body in to flame I would rather sit waiting in my dead body, not sit looking at my pile of ash.
I think that’s what I’m trying to say, until I respawn I want it to be my body laying there. Ash when my body is back in the world.
Rebirth for a phoenix is one that bursts from the ashes, so I wonder if we'll have a possible natural rebirth at the point of our death (from our own ashes as is consistent with what I know of the legend) and/ or from a respawn point that is itself a pile of ashes.
Maybe this respawn point is some sort of natural receptacle of the ashes of the fallen. So, it would still be consistent with phoenix lore.
Or, maybe it will just be similar to the phoenix, but it's own thing (Probably more likely).
I still like the idea of the player caused resurrection animation consisting of a reconstituting of our own ashes back into our humanoid form. I like the idea of the "rewind".
I genuinely dont care about corpses on the ground or other methods though. Very neutral. Only main benefit I see is you can more easily tell the kind of loot you could gain from a corrupted player when they die. Again doesn't bother me either way though.
Formerly T-Elf