Where druids?

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Asgerr

Nowhere druids. Maybe in expansions druids. Perhaps more subclasses in future, druids.

Ya druid?

CROW3

In WoW.

Dygz

A rose by any other name...

bloodprophet

CROW3 wrote: »

In WoW.

I was gonna say they same thing. They should stay there.

Schmuky

You know what I really like about threads like this? The simplicity of them. The whole thing is just "?". What do you want us to say to that? Where druids? What do you consider a druid? Do you mean a WoW druid or a DnD druid? Do you want to play a druid or do you like killing druids? What exactly are you asking?!

YeOldeSmith

Yeah I kind of want them too.

TheClimbTo1

Schmuky wrote: »

You know what I really like about threads like this? The simplicity of them. The whole thing is just "?". What do you want us to say to that? Where druids? What do you consider a druid? Do you mean a WoW druid or a DnD druid? Do you want to play a druid or do you like killing druids? What exactly are you asking?!

He is asking "Where?" Now when, not how, not why, not who. Simply, where.

LuKe_NuKeS_Em

Druid in forest, duh.

Nerror

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Druid

RIP Druids

Catmonkey

I want to play a druid.

Or more to the point, I'm not in to "holy magic" or "light". I prefer nature magic. Earth magic. As far as I recall, there's nothing like that in AoC. It doesn't have to be called a "druid", but a healing class that uses nature and renewal rather than something "divine".

Most of the Cleric spells I've seen have some sort of divine or religious name; Devotion, Divine Censure, Hallowed Ground, Divine Light. That doesn't appeal to me at all.

PenguinPaladin

Catmonkey wrote: »

I want to play a druid.

Or more to the point, I'm not in to "holy magic" or "light". I prefer nature magic. Earth magic. As far as I recall, there's nothing like that in AoC. It doesn't have to be called a "druid", but a healing class that uses nature and renewal rather than something "divine".

Most of the Cleric spells I've seen have some sort of divine or religious name; Devotion, Divine Censure, Hallowed Ground, Divine Light. That doesn't appeal to me at all.

The base classes they have chosen is at fault for this.

Dps- warrior, mage, ranger, rouge

Tank- tank

Support- cleric

Jack of all trade/support/odd ones out- summoner, bard.

The best way to end up with a druid feel, in theory is probably playing summoner, and aiming for support then going with ranger or cleric to make the class either fit your feel more or fit your support role more. Which doesnt feel right. Or going cleric, playing with a feel you do not like until you get your secondary class, and take ranger, hoping that rounds out your feel....

The 8 base classes, really gives support roles the most restricted feeling among them. We can really just hope that augments make up for this, and augments you can have before gaining your secondary class are varied enough to smooth out the feel of your wanted flavor.

To add to this though.... druids could also use "holy magic" by definition. Instead of praying to a church-like god. You pray to the earth mother for your power. Its just "green light" over "white holy light" hopfully their religion systems, and augments can make this feel as you want it too.

I personally would have rather had druid over summoner, but i believe their augment system had a lot to do with the 8 classes that were chosen, seeing as each class needs 4 unique augments. And ranger and druid augments would probably overlap.

Happymeal2415

Druids and monks were in the original game design but got scratched early on if I remember correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if they're an expansion later after release

Dygz

Druid is basically a Cleric/Ranger or Ranger/Cleric.
In Ashes, could be a Ranger/Summoner or Summoner/Ranger.

Ashes doesn't have a shapeshifting class.

Elder

Happymeal2415 wrote: »

Druids and monks were in the original game design but got scratched early on if I remember correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if they're an expansion later after release

I don't believe you're remembering correctly, the archetypes as far as I'm aware have never been altered since they were publicized. If you have a source though, I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I also wouldn't expect any new archetypes to be added through expansions. The amount of work required to add additional archetypes would likely be exponential, making it an unsustainable method for delivering new content.

Catmonkey

Dygz wrote: »

Druid is basically a Cleric/Ranger or Ranger/Cleric.
In Ashes, could be a Ranger/Summoner or Summoner/Ranger.

Ashes doesn't have a shapeshifting class.

It's not so much the shapeshifting, more the class fantasy. I've never been interested in (WoW) hunters, or pet classes, so I don't think I'll want to play Ranger or Summoner.

I only ever play healers really. I played for ages as a Holy Priest in WoW, but Druid and Shaman both appeal more to me. I've never wanted to play a WoW Paladin either.

I'll probably end up as a Cleric, but I won't enjoy it as much as I would if it fitted my preferences better.

Happymeal2415

Elder wrote: »

Happymeal2415 wrote: »

Druids and monks were in the original game design but got scratched early on if I remember correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if they're an expansion later after release

I don't believe you're remembering correctly, the archetypes as far as I'm aware have never been altered since they were publicized. If you have a source though, I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I also wouldn't expect any new archetypes to be added through expansions. The amount of work required to add additional archetypes would likely be exponential, making it an unsustainable method for delivering new content.

I'm pretty sure I heard it off one of the CC's... maybe @Jahlon ? Many apologies if I'm putting words in someone's mouth

Talents

Happymeal2415 wrote: »

Elder wrote: »

Happymeal2415 wrote: »

Druids and monks were in the original game design but got scratched early on if I remember correctly. I wouldn't be surprised if they're an expansion later after release

I don't believe you're remembering correctly, the archetypes as far as I'm aware have never been altered since they were publicized. If you have a source though, I would be happy to be proven wrong.

I also wouldn't expect any new archetypes to be added through expansions. The amount of work required to add additional archetypes would likely be exponential, making it an unsustainable method for delivering new content.

I'm pretty sure I heard it off one of the CC's... maybe @Jahlon ? Many apologies if I'm putting words in someone's mouth

The archetypes haven't been changed since the game was first announced. What apparently happened was originally there were 3 more archetypes planned, but Steven scrapped the idea when he realised how much of a gargantuan task it would be to implement 3 more archetypes into the Ashes class system (seeing as how each new archetype that is added is basically multiplicative in regards to augments and stuff).

They've never revealed what the 3 archetypes that were scrapped were.

Dygz

Catmonkey wrote: »

It's not so much the shapeshifting, more the class fantasy. I've never been interested in (WoW) hunters, or pet classes, so I don't think I'll want to play Ranger or Summoner.

I only ever play healers really. I played for ages as a Holy Priest in WoW, but Druid and Shaman both appeal more to me. I've never wanted to play a WoW Paladin either.

I dunno what you think a Druid's class fantasy encompasses.
It's typically a form of nature priest. In RPGs, it's fairly common for the class to include animal shape-shifting.
If Elemental Priest fits with your concept of Druid, Cleric/Mage or Mage/Cleric might be the way to go.

BaSkA_9x2

A druid was a member of the high-ranking class in ancient Celtic cultures. Druids were religious leaders as well as legal authorities, adjudicators, lorekeepers, medical professionals and political advisors. Druids left no written accounts. While they were reported to have been literate, they are believed to have been prevented by doctrine from recording their knowledge in written form. Their beliefs and practices are attested in some detail by their contemporaries from other cultures, such as the Romans and the Greeks.

The earliest known references to the druids date to the 4th century BCE. The oldest detailed description comes from Julius Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico (50s BCE). They were described by other Roman writers such as Cicero, Tacitus, and Pliny the Elder. Following the Roman invasion of Gaul, the druid orders were suppressed by the Roman government under the 1st-century CE emperors Tiberius and Claudius, and had disappeared from the written record by the 2nd century.

In about 750 CE, the word druid appears in a poem by Blathmac saying that he was "better than a prophet, more knowledgeable than every druid, a king who was a bishop and a complete sage." The druids appear in some of the medieval tales from Christianized Ireland like "Táin Bó Cúailnge", where they are largely portrayed as sorcerers who opposed the coming of Christianity.[6] In the wake of the Celtic revival during the 18th and 19th centuries, fraternal and neopagan groups were founded based on ideas about the ancient druids, a movement known as Neo-Druidism. Many popular notions about druids, based on misconceptions of 18th-century scholars, have been largely superseded by more recent study.

That's all I know about Druids, man.

CROW3

BaSkA13 wrote: »

That's all I know about Druids, man.

You forgot to include bear tanks and stealthed horned pumas.

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