rwflako wrote: » what are you even talking about ofc you will have the chance to get unique items and hunt down relics Cosmetic shop has nothing to do with your game play looks like your just crying to cry at this point tbh go play BDO
Taaku wrote: » Aerlana wrote: » I personally would totally prefer a 20 bucks sub, and would be ok to go up to 25... i prefer a game with a subscription, and "all same for everyone" as it was in "the good old days"... But you, the op, could you be ok for such prices to play ? I personally would not be happy about a $20 - $25 sub fee since I am actually quite poor and gaming is one of my only get aways... That said at this point in gaming, I would honestly prefer an ACTUAL GOOD MMO with no cash shop, all content in game. And I would just work on figuring out funds for the monthly sub. Too much BS with cash shops.
Aerlana wrote: » I personally would totally prefer a 20 bucks sub, and would be ok to go up to 25... i prefer a game with a subscription, and "all same for everyone" as it was in "the good old days"... But you, the op, could you be ok for such prices to play ?
F8L3RR0R wrote: » The Incel is real.
Oreyeon wrote: » Way to lump yourself in with all of the other devs that are ruining gaming with cash shops. I'm super tired of cash shops in these games. Pay real world money for cosmetic or pay to win items. I know that your game doesn't have pay to win stuff, but still. When I play an MMO or ARPG, I expect to be able to have the ability and opportunity to find unique items on my own, without having to pay money to buy them. That is the fun and draw of games like this, DISCOVERY and LOOT. That magic is gone with these stupid and greedy cash shops.
Natasha wrote: » Okay now think of all the people in your same situation who wouldn't find the increased cost justifiable. Because I can tell you there'd be alot out there. We already get people coming in asking about lowered subscription fees due to their country of origin now. Imagine what it would be like if they doubled the price. It's pretty obvious the game would be inaccessible to many.
Taaku wrote: » Natasha wrote: » Okay now think of all the people in your same situation who wouldn't find the increased cost justifiable. Because I can tell you there'd be alot out there. We already get people coming in asking about lowered subscription fees due to their country of origin now. Imagine what it would be like if they doubled the price. It's pretty obvious the game would be inaccessible to many. Honestly better that than exploiting peoples FOMO with cash shop items, sales, limited runs of items so people can get thousands of $$$ in debt. How many times have you heard of that happening? And on the stupidest games ever? And it's always people like me that can not afford it. sooo... yeah. I'd rather it be a static amount that can't be exploited.
Natasha wrote: » Bruh. Don't buy shit you cant afford then? Exercise some personal responsibility? All you need to play the game is the base sub cost of 15 dollars a month, expansions are free. No one is forcing you to buy pixels. Let all the whale lords purchase 10 bazillion dollars worth of cosmetics that don't do anything in order to keep the cost of the game low for people like you with no money. Otherwise youd be paying way more without them.
Taaku wrote: » Natasha wrote: » Bruh. Don't buy shit you cant afford then? Exercise some personal responsibility? All you need to play the game is the base sub cost of 15 dollars a month, expansions are free. No one is forcing you to buy pixels. Let all the whale lords purchase 10 bazillion dollars worth of cosmetics that don't do anything in order to keep the cost of the game low for people like you with no money. Otherwise youd be paying way more without them. I personally don't. Just saying... it's a big problem. And i'd rather it not be a problem. Exploiting people for profit is still exploiting people. It's still scummy, and it's why gaming as a whole is in such a crappy place right now.
SongRune wrote: » What if it's not for profit? What if it's literally just to fund more development and subsidize poor people's sub fees?
Taaku wrote: » SongRune wrote: » What if it's not for profit? What if it's literally just to fund more development and subsidize poor people's sub fees? If this was the case every dev / artist / tester / lead / ceo would make the same amount at a game studio. News flash no one needs to make millions a year to live comfortably. But like @Sathrago said above, this is reality. Steven would not have dumped about 20 million of his own cash into AOC if he didn't expect to make it back and much much more.
Taaku wrote: » I personally don't. Just saying... it's a big problem. And i'd rather it not be a problem. Exploiting people for profit is still exploiting people. It's still scummy, and it's why gaming as a whole is in such a crappy place right now.
akabear wrote: » The way I see it is both your outlook on how much the game costs, how much enjoyment I get out of it and sometimes the two are not proportionate. I bought cosmetics from Path of Exile for no other reason than I got so many hours enjoyment out of the game, I wanted to give something back. I never used them. Buying small capital outlay of some cosmetics my end, did not come close to recompense for the hours of enjoyment I got. Similar with War Thunder. I even bought the expansions to Kingdom Come Deliverance and never used them as I was so impressed with the game. For ashes, if I see cosmetics I like I may buy, I may not, but if I gain far more enjoyment than I believe the subscriptions costs, I would be happy to support Intrepid and the future development. As for monthly subscription, well the fact that subs have not really increased much, if at all, in many years I imagine then becomes a numbers game to keep a high player base to be viable to contiue. Either way, I think both monthly fee at the economical rate they have proposed will mean the game hopefully is not gated from those financially challenged and the cosmetics do bring in enough support keep the margins balanced and the game progressing. I think they have made the right choice!
In my opinion quality of cash shop cosmetics should be equal to in game achievable cosmetics, but offer a diverse selection of unique looks.[8] – Steven Sharif
Taaku wrote: » It's pretty obvious the game would be inaccessible to many. limited runs of items so people can get thousands of $$$ in debt. How many times have you heard of that happening?
