Ashes Of Creation Content Release

With soo much promised for ashes such as far as systems and content; How would you feel about some promised features not being available at launch, but added in future free base game updates. This is assuming it’s nothing major like naval content, an archetype, or nodes for example would be missing.
There’s obvious drawbacks to this as we’ve seen major developers neglect a game at release with a promise to fix it later (insert game example here). Games that just needed a little more time in the oven.
There’s also the consensus that so many of AOCs systems are interconnected and rely on one another by brilliant design.
However what if it was small systems such as combat pets as a rough example.
NOTE: This is not something I’m asking for or wanting, but felt it was a good topic of discussion as I feel that if AOC releases with even 75% of what it’s promised, it’ll be better than most (if not all) games on the market.
-Nyce

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Mag7spy

Monster coin cause it feels like a gimmick.

Vyril

Stock Market

Talents

Stock Exchange

IronSkill

as long as it has rogue i think ill be good if it releases without anything else

Imoxator

Hot take, but I don’t think we need naval combat at release. It should be one of the first expansions, but naval warfare will not be something new players will have the resources to really interact with.

Mag7spy

Imoxator wrote: »

Hot take, but I don’t think we need naval combat at release. It should be one of the first expansions, but naval warfare will not be something new players will have the resources to really interact with.

Def hot take, a lot of thing technically aren't needed. Id rather say having it in is fine but improving it further after launch would be fine.

That way they can gain more information to adjust and test things to make the best experience they feel they can make, unless they don't feel it is as important.

Total removal would make ocean content a lot more boring and pointless. And make the world feel much smaller.

Imoxator

Agreed. Naval needs to be in the game. But if it came down to Ashes fully launching two months early without naval warfare or waiting an extra two months to have it be available at launch, I’d take the former over the latter.

Imoxator

But naval will be tested in A2, so it’ll be available at launch regardless.

NyceGaming

Vyril wrote: »

Stock Market

Precise example I’ve used before. I know it’s a kickstarter goal, but seems like one of those things people wouldn’t get up in arms about if it’s not in alpha 2 or even at launch

NyceGaming

Talents wrote: »

Stock Exchange

Yea that’s one thing I don’t predict anyone complaining about missing at initial launch

NyceGaming

Mag7spy wrote: »

Monster coin cause it feels like a gimmick.

I’m with you in this. I feel it’s cool personally, but I for one wouldn’t care if it took a while to implement. As long as we get npc hordes to attack nodes, I don’t care if players can control them or not

Imoxator wrote: »

Agreed. Naval needs to be in the game. But if it came down to Ashes fully launching two months early without naval warfare or waiting an extra two months to have it be available at launch, I’d take the former over the latter.

Ok this I can agree with. I feel naval is vital , but if it was barebones then expanded on 2 months later we’ll be fine

morphwastaken

I think if AoC would have just the bare minimum systems in place to function - it would be the best MMO on the marker for me. L2 had barely anything besides good core principles and it's a great game. AoC is way more ambitious with its systems than i could hope for. I would absolutely be ok with missing features.

OlympusBurns

The Ranger archetype. I’m not really interested in it and I don’t know anyone who wants it. Pretty useless class imo.

George_Black

Honestly, simply the no p2w open world pvp has me sold. It's so simple to make a great mmo. All you need is a map which can be controlled by players and reasons to make the guilds fight.

I could even do without the ever changing world based on player choices.

OlympusBurns

George_Black wrote: »

Honestly, simply the no p2w open world pvp has me sold. It's so simple to make a great mmo. All you need is a map which can be controlled by players and reasons to make the guilds fight.

I could even do without the ever changing world based on player choices.

I liked new world too. Haha jk yeah I get what you’re saying. The fundamental game of ashes and it’s systems will be enough.

Jamation

The log out button. I don't see why I would need it.

Raven016

There is nothing I would delay.
Every feature may be important for someone.
They already excluded hardcore PvE and PvPers with the PvX approach. At least the middle layer should have no reason to leave to another MMO.

Solvryn

Raven016 wrote: »

There is nothing I would delay.
Every feature may be important for someone.
They already excluded hardcore PvE and PvPers with the PvX approach. At least the middle layer should have no reason to leave to another MMO.

Old full loot games had danger present in the open world.

This open world will be much more strategic and complex.

Raven016

Solvryn wrote: »

Raven016 wrote: »

There is nothing I would delay.
Every feature may be important for someone.
They already excluded hardcore PvE and PvPers with the PvX approach. At least the middle layer should have no reason to leave to another MMO.

Old full loot games had danger present in the open world.

This open world will be much more strategic and complex.

My official position didn't changed. They should not delay anything.
But if you push me realy hard to sacrifice something to the Seven,
I would drop these
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Arenas
I was also considering
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Companion_app
But that is already marked as likely to be delayed.

I would like to bring before release the
https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Battle_maps

Battle maps allow players to strategize, gain bonuses on planned attacks, and see the blueprints of attackable points. Whether attacking a node or castle, players will be able to discern defenses, analyze possible weak points and gain tactical advantages before the battle begins.[1]

Veeshan

NyceGaming wrote: »

With soo much promised for ashes such as far as systems and content; How would you feel about some promised features not being available at launch, but added in future free base game updates. This is assuming it’s nothing major like naval content, an archetype, or nodes for example would be missing.
There’s obvious drawbacks to this as we’ve seen major developers neglect a game at release with a promise to fix it later (insert game example here). Games that just needed a little more time in the oven.
There’s also the consensus that so many of AOCs systems are interconnected and rely on one another by brilliant design.
However what if it was small systems such as combat pets as a rough example.
NOTE: This is not something I’m asking for or wanting, but felt it was a good topic of discussion as I feel that if AOC releases with even 75% of what it’s promised, it’ll be better than most (if not all) games on the market.
-Nyce

tbh kinda whats happening with alpha 2

and that gonna run basicly till game is finished :P

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