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My PvX != Your PvX

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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    Exploration can be done with faster moving mounts which have small inventory space and attack capabilities.
    And using stealth.
    The big complains come when resources are being collected and lost. PvE gatherers do not want only to explore but to gather as well and chill. AFK fishing in the deep ocean maybe.
    Well, I won't be collecting any Resources at all. Just exploring.
    And I plan to only gain whatever xp comes from exploring, so... we'll have to see if that's enough to boost Stealth sufficiently.
    And we'll have to see if there are Mounts that have Stealth.

    You will be in danger on land dungeons too. Exploring them deep until to an end boss might not be easy.
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    The underwater POIs where players are supposed to fight NPCs should be similar to land NPCs in regard to impact onto the nodes. It is a player activity which makes sense to contribute to the growth of a node.
    That means the underwater part will be in the coastal waters, in the ZoI of coastal nodes.
    That is unconvincing speculation.
    Even if some game design elements make sense, cannot always be applied to predict Steven's choices.
    But if enough players say something in a pinned thread, maybe they have some impact.
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    The deep ocean ZoI is outside of Node Zoi and if there are NPCs to fight, those are supposed to have valuable drops. I doubt that those will have underwater villages with lore to attract explorers. I will discourage such choices if they ask us. Lore should be on Node ZoI areas.
    Um. I mean... there is lore just by having water or land to travel across.
    It's common for me to spend hours of one, individual, play session just swimming around continents as far as possible... without ever encountering a village.
    And I repeat that on most of my alts even when I already know what is or isn't there.
    Dygz wrote: »
    My primary goal when playing any RPG is to uncover/explore the entire map as quickly as possible.
    Speed runner!!
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    blat wrote: »
    Maybe just pretend the Open Seas are full of dangerous elite mobs (that all happen to look like players). Would it help if I changed my character model to a dragon?

    You must look like a ship.
    To look like mobs, there will be monster coins.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    So... effectively, I'm likely to perceive traces of PvP mixed in with PvE at least as low key, frustratingly too much PvP.
    When Steven mentioned that the Inventory bags are designed such that when you leave town to go Gather Resources you should be thinking about Economic Warfare, that reinforced for me that I'm not part of the target audience. Because I do not want to have to think about pvp Economic Warfare just because I want to Gather some flowers or herbs.

    Thus…

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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 18
    Otr wrote: »
    You will be in danger on land dungeons too. Exploring them deep until to an end boss might not be easy.
    Danger? What does danger have to do with anything?
    Why are we suddenly talking about danger?

    But... typically Stealth is going to help me bypass most mobs. Including Dungeon Bosses.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Otr wrote: »
    Speed runner!!
    Haha!
    Maybe...
    Lots of times that is not very speedy.
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    You will be in danger on land dungeons too. Exploring them deep until to an end boss might not be easy.
    Danger? What does danger have to do with anything?
    Why are we suddenly talking about danger?

    But... typically Stealth is going to help me bypass most mobs. Including Dungeon Bosses.

    Maybe players who camp those bosses will not like having you nearby and will try to kill you.
    Dygz wrote: »
    I like PB&J sometimes. But most of the time I just want jelly without peanut butter. And I need to be the one who decides when I have peanut butter mixed with jelly or even just peanut butter. Rather than a sibling randomly deciding that for me.

    So... effectively, I'm likely to perceive traces of PvP mixed in with PvE at least as low key, frustratingly too much PvP.

    I have a solution! \o/
    - when you are in mood for PvP you go explore the deep ocean
    - when you are in mood for PvE you go on land
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 18
    Otr wrote: »
    Maybe players who camp those bosses will not like having you nearby and will try to kill you.
    Oh. I thought you were talking about in general.
    When I'm exploring Ashes, danger and death will be irrelevant.
    I won't be pursuing any progression. Or collecting any Resources.
    Just exploring as much as I can with the least amount of xp gain I can manage.

    Gamers can kill me if they want to.


    Otr wrote: »
    I have a solution! \o/
    - when you are in mood for PvP you go explore the deep ocean
    - when you are in mood for PvE you go on land
    That is moot at this point.
    I'll be ignoring all PvP.
    And I'll also be ignoring most of the PvE, too.
    Just exploring.

    When I'm in the mood to actually play an MMORPG, I'll just play some other game.
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    I have a solution! \o/
    - when you are in mood for PvP you go explore the deep ocean
    - when you are in mood for PvE you go on land
    That is moot at this point.
    I'll be ignoring all PvP.
    And I'll also be ignoring most of the PvE, too.
    Just exploring.

    When I'm in the mood to actually play an MMORPG, I'll just play some other game.

    Maybe you become addicted to tavern games...

    There may be unique games that can be acquired through adventuring in the world.[3]
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    edited April 18
    Otr wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    I have a solution! \o/
    - when you are in mood for PvP you go explore the deep ocean
    - when you are in mood for PvE you go on land
    That is moot at this point.
    I'll be ignoring all PvP.
    And I'll also be ignoring most of the PvE, too.
    Just exploring.

    When I'm in the mood to actually play an MMORPG, I'll just play some other game.

    Maybe you become addicted to tavern games...

    There may be unique games that can be acquired through adventuring in the world.[3]

    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it. he wants to walk over every single walkable tile and discover the entire map. he doesn't care about quests or mobs or anything else.

    helping people with quests, pvping, pveing, etc, that's all secondary and mood dependent. so he might not be able to walk (or sail) to every corner because of pvp. maybe he could do it at 4 am on a monday when everyone is sleeping tho
  • blatblat Member
    Depraved wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    I have a solution! \o/
    - when you are in mood for PvP you go explore the deep ocean
    - when you are in mood for PvE you go on land
    That is moot at this point.
    I'll be ignoring all PvP.
    And I'll also be ignoring most of the PvE, too.
    Just exploring.

    When I'm in the mood to actually play an MMORPG, I'll just play some other game.

    Maybe you become addicted to tavern games...

    There may be unique games that can be acquired through adventuring in the world.[3]

    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it. he wants to walk over every single walkable tile and discover the entire map. he doesn't care about quests or mobs or anything else.

    helping people with quests, pvping, pveing, etc, that's all secondary and mood dependent. so he might not be able to walk (or sail) to every corner because of pvp. maybe he could do it at 4 am on a monday when everyone is sleeping tho

    I wonder does @Dygz want to walk around the map in basically every RPG going, then?
    As in, do you play every release for a brief period for exploration purposes at least? (Then sometimes opt to actually play the mmo, depending on mood)
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 19
    Depraved wrote: »
    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it.
    That's not my playstyle.
    It's just what I will be doing in Ashes.
    Because I'm really not interested in playing Ashes but people keep asking me to play it anyway.
    So, I found a way to accomodate them - even though I really have no interest in playing the actual game.

    Explore as much as possible.
    Socialize with others.
    0 kills
    0 participation in any progression.
    0 questing
    0 Gathering beyond Stealth gear and Mounts
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 19
    blat wrote: »
    I wonder does @Dygz want to walk around the map in basically every RPG going, then?
    As in, do you play every release for a brief period for exploration purposes at least? (Then sometimes opt to actually play the mmo, depending on mood)
    The first thing I do in every MMORPG is run my character from one starting area to the starting area of a different Race.
    Then I quest and help others with quests until I Level.
    Every time I Level, I uncover the map as much as possible until I run into skulled mobs that can basically one-shot me.
    Then I quest, help other players and RP until I Level again. Repeat until I run out of quests.
    Then I make some alts and repeat that several times, RPing with other players from the different perspectives, abilities and personalities of the alts.

    So, it is Explore first. Quest/Socialize/RP 2nd. Combat last.
    Pretty much the way my Bartle Score suggests:
    Explorer 87%; Socializer 73% ; Achiever 47%; Killer 0%
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it.
    That's not my playstyle.
    It's just what I will be doing in Ashes.
    Because I'm really not interested in playing Ashes but people keep asking me to play it anyway.
    So, I found a way to accomodate them - even though I really have no interest in playing the actual game.

    Explore as much as possible.
    Socialize with others.
    0 kills
    0 participation in any progression.
    0 questing
    0 Gathering beyond Stealth gear and Mounts

    u toldme in another thread that's what u do, everything else is secondary. and when ur done, you play another mmorpg
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 19
    Depraved wrote: »
    u toldme in another thread that's what u do, everything else is secondary. and when ur done, you play another mmorpg
    LMAO
    Post the quote and we can examine what you misunderstood.

    Pretty sure what I told you is that in Ashes I will just be exploring and ignoring everything else. And when I truly want to play an MMORPG, I will actually play a different MMORPG.

    I typically move to a different MMORPG after 2+ alts have uncovered the entire map and completed all the available quests.
    These days, I also return for new Battlepass rewards.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    im not gonna go dig those threads =x but ill take your word for it, after all, you are the source xD
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Pretty sure what I told you is that in Ashes I will just be exploring and ignoring everything else.

    There are flowers to pick too. So I hear...

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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    CROW3 wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Pretty sure what I told you is that in Ashes I will just be exploring and ignoring everything else.

    There are flowers to pick too. So I hear...

    That's economic warfare and you need special bags.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Otr wrote: »
    That's economic warfare and you need special bags.

    Only if you have allegiance to another node, and if you’re attached to keeping them.
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 19
    CROW3 wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Pretty sure what I told you is that in Ashes I will just be exploring and ignoring everything else.

    There are flowers to pick too. So I hear...
    Picking flowers usually gives some xp, so... that would be too much.
    Plus 0 Gathering/Resources is the plan.
    CROW3 wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    That's economic warfare and you need special bags.

    Only if you have allegiance to another node, and if you’re attached to keeping them.
    Not attached to keeping them, but also not willing to ever drop any.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Not attached to keeping them, but also not willing to ever drop any.

    That’s an interesting philosophical state.

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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited April 19
    CROW3 wrote: »
    That’s an interesting philosophical state.
    Have to be in an interesting philosophical state to play a game I really don’t want to play.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    CROW3 wrote: »
    That’s an interesting philosophical state.
    Have to be in an interesting philosophical state to play a game I really don’t want to play.

    I call that state ‘uninstall’ 😉
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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it.
    That's not my playstyle.
    It's just what I will be doing in Ashes.
    Because I'm really not interested in playing Ashes but people keep asking me to play it anyway.
    So, I found a way to accomodate them - even though I really have no interest in playing the actual game.

    Explore as much as possible.
    Socialize with others.
    0 kills
    0 participation in any progression.
    0 questing
    0 Gathering beyond Stealth gear and Mounts

    You are the ideal candidate to be a GM.
  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    Otr wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it.
    That's not my playstyle.
    It's just what I will be doing in Ashes.
    Because I'm really not interested in playing Ashes but people keep asking me to play it anyway.
    So, I found a way to accomodate them - even though I really have no interest in playing the actual game.

    Explore as much as possible.
    Socialize with others.
    0 kills
    0 participation in any progression.
    0 questing
    0 Gathering beyond Stealth gear and Mounts

    You are the ideal candidate to be a GM.

    no no, he is a commie. he will ruin the free market and give items to everyone so they are equal xDDD
  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    Dygz wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    dygz playstyle is to walk around the map, literally, that's it.
    That's not my playstyle.
    It's just what I will be doing in Ashes.
    Because I'm really not interested in playing Ashes but people keep asking me to play it anyway.
    So, I found a way to accomodate them - even though I really have no interest in playing the actual game.

    Explore as much as possible.
    Socialize with others.
    0 kills
    0 participation in any progression.
    0 questing
    0 Gathering beyond Stealth gear and Mounts

    You are the ideal candidate to be a GM.

    no no, he is a commie. he will ruin the free market and give items to everyone so they are equal xDDD

    Didn't thought about that!
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    CROW3 wrote: »
    I call that state ‘uninstall’ 😉
    Yeah. But…
    Certain people in these Forums are asking me to play anyway, so I had to figure out a frame of mind that would allow me to do that.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    CROW3 wrote: »
    I call that state ‘uninstall’ 😉
    Yeah. But…
    Certain people in these Forums are asking me to play anyway, so I had to figure out a frame of mind that would allow me to do that.

    Give me $40k. 🤗

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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Dygz wrote: »
    Well...yeah... Steven says the Rewards in the Open Seas are supposed to highly valuable compared to what's available on land.

    Well ... ... ;) ... ... how else to lure and bait People onto the Oceans ? ;)

    Even if they would make the Oceans as beautiful and wild-looking as Sea of Thieves regarding the Sea Surface and Waves,

    how to get People " away " from all those beautiful, wonderful, dreamy Landscapes with countless Contents inside them that are also very much fun to play ? ;)


    You get to appeal to People's Greed a little bit. >:) Heheheheheh. >:) . 😁
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Yep.
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