Corruption system = anti pvp system

Every server is a PVE server with small pockets of PvP allowed to happen. These pockets are end game currently and there is zero PvP else where.

I attempted to PvP someone 2 levels higher then myself only to find them to run instead of fight. i chased and killed them.

i then lost all of my weapons for this. How is this balanced in any way he lost some gatherable goods I.E. moments of work where as i lost all of my gear progression for daring to PvP ONE PLAYER ONCE... NOT TWO NOT THREE NOT FOUR.

i killed one player and lost everything. This game is NOT a PVX GAME!!!

It was said to have an ANTI GRIEF system it's ANTI PvP system.

Clear and simple YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PVP ANYONE AT ANY TIME OUTSIDE OF THE LAWLESS ZONES...

IF PVP WAS A PART OF THIS GAME WHY ARE THERE ONLY 2 AREAS OUT OF THE ENTIRE ALPHA AND WHY ARE THE END GAME?!?!?! This game had one instance of asmongold getting camped and u respond with such over kill that it ruins the game for anyone else who enjoys fair pvp.

P.S. the fix is very simple PVP in the same level bracket or higher have no corruption unless you kill that same person more then once.. done idky we need to decimate and entire game claiming to be PVX because ONE streamer got ganked.

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Endowed

Smaashley wrote: »

I actually think that non-consensual PvP shouldn't exist. It's like non-consensual sex, it's not allowed. You don't touch somebody that doesn't want to be touched simply because it's not fun.

No, no, no.

Blip

Ii always happens OP Cearbeers invade a PvP MMO and fuck it up.
Intrepid buckled faster then i toght they would.

Noaani

Smaashley wrote: »

I actually think that non-consensual PvP shouldn't exist.

You consent to all PvP when you log in.

Caeryl

Blip wrote: »

Ii always happens OP Cearbeers invade a PvP MMO and fuck it up.
Intrepid buckled faster then i toght they would.

This is almost a 1:1 pull from Archage. You know, the PvP MMO? That one?

If you want full loot no consequences PvP, you can get that from a Minecraft realm

PresentPotato

This is almost a 1:1 pull from Archage. You know, the PvP MMO? That one?

which failed HARD ! you know that game? the one that failed so hard on its face ya good reason to copy it huh ? how about mmos that still exist like the OG classic wow ? oh its still around and broke the internet when it release in 2020. but ya lets model this game after a dead mmo that u cant play anymore.

Githal

I agree that the corruption system is too brutal. But the corruption penalties cant be nerfed else this game will be gank feast. But it cant stay like now coz it prevents all PVP.

So the solution should not be the penalties from corruption, but Changing the way you get corruption.
For example: Every day the first 2 or 3 times you kill green player you dont get corrupted. This resets daily (or can be made like 7-8 times resetting weekly). After you spent those 2-3 corruption preventions for the day, every next kill makes you corrupted. This way the penalties of the corruption will be well placed and can even be increased further.

Tho i can see with this solution that this may be abused by bigger groups that may swap the players who make the killing blow so they dont get corrupted. So a possible solution for this is the corruption to be party wide. Meaning if 1 member of a group of 40 kills green player - then the killer gets 1 stack of corruption (or removes 1 corruption prevention for the day) AND all other 39 members of the group get 1/3 of a corruption stack, so 3 of those will make full stack.

PresentPotato

Githal wrote: »

I agree that the corruption system is too brutal. But the corruption penalties cant be nerfed else this game will be gank feast. But it cant stay like now coz it prevents all PVP.

i agree there needs to be a real discussion coming from community to Dev team and NOT ONLY by streamers these people do not speak for millions of potential players and certainly dont speak for me.

P.S. for context there are more then 100 million people in this country asmongold has 3 million subs but is a fraction compared to the country of just the US. find a different way to reach people rather then the easy way and sucking off asmongold

Dygz

PresentPotato wrote: »

I played the game on my first go around day one and I got legendary mats almost instantly so no they aren't as rare. And yes I lost all of my gear used for leveling period I.E. weapons.

I mean... Phase 1 is a stability test; not a content or balance test, so...
I dunno why you are whining about content and balancing issues from day one stability testing.

PresentPotato

I dunno why you are whining about content and balancing issues from day one stability testing.

Having corruption is NOT CONTENT. its a punishment system that serves to only take away from the game and protect people who would grief you in other ways I.E. PVE adnies such as ur self

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Its_Me

Blip wrote: »

Ii always happens OP Cearbeers invade a PvP MMO and fuck it up.
Intrepid buckled faster then i toght they would.

Hmmmm.... or perhaps it is just a lot of pseudo-PVP players that only want an advantage fight that refuse to flag up for real PVP that would rather focus non-combatants that have no interest (and likely no gear or experience) in PVP that like to think of themselves as hardcore PVPrs? 🤔

Githal

PresentPotato wrote: »

I dunno why you are whining about content and balancing issues from day one stability testing.

Having corruption is NOT CONTENT. its a punishment system that serves to only take away from the game and protect people who would grief you in other ways I.E. PVE adnies such as ur self

If this was the case then non consensual PVP would not be allowed at all. Meaning you are wrong!

The intent behind the corruption system is to remove griefers But atm Intrepid is trying to achieve this intent by changing the penalty from corruption deaths, but i dont think this should be the way they approach this problem.

PresentPotato

Githal wrote: »

PresentPotato wrote: »

I dunno why you are whining about content and balancing issues from day one stability testing.

Having corruption is NOT CONTENT. its a punishment system that serves to only take away from the game and protect people who would grief you in other ways I.E. PVE adnies such as ur self

If this was the case then non consensual PVP would not be allowed at all. Meaning you are wrong!

The intent behind the corruption system is to remove griefers But atm Intrepid is trying to achieve this intent by changing the penalty from corruption deaths, but i dont think this should be the way they approach this problem.

This system does not punish greifers only it punishes any amount of pvp. system should NOT steal my gear for one offense! i killed one guy one time and got my stuff taken and i pvped at level one on one and he was 2 levels higher then me and the paper to my rock class. also not afk and i made him aware of incoming pvp.

Now tell me how that was unfair. please it might not be what they wanted but thats risk and danger is it not. everything i mentioned is even playing field is it not ?

daleybobs

Like I said in another post, what tends to happen with games like these is that people will often congregate to a server with the content they like, and more often or not a dedicated PvP server will emerge on its own. This isn't typically something developers enforce, just a natural development of communities within a game.

Chances are people that really want to PvP will often flock to the same server, making it far more likely to happen, whereas other servers that have communities dedicated to other content such as roleplay or casual gaming will typically see less of it.

I don't think PvP is going to be a problem for people that don't want it, cos they'll likely all be on the same server anyway. The corruption system exists as a deterrant, but I have to wonder why such a thing exists if it serves just to penalise people for being over-indulgent in PvP outside of the sanctioned areas.

I don't think the Bounty Hunting system is implemented yet, right? We should definitely be pushing for that as a feature so we know how to balance corruption properly.

PresentPotato

I don't think the Bounty Hunting system is implemented yet, right? We should definitely be pushing for that as a feature so we know how to balance corruption properly.[/quote]

Dev's taking easy way out cause asmongold ,instead of furthering a system thats said to be the balance to red players as an in game feature which would add to the game instead of punish wrong think I.E. (fair ) PVP NOT grefing

Xoetik

PresentPotato wrote: »

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing. also if u have no money u cant go buy another weapon. if you lose both ur weapons u cant play the game thus my time has ended much like many others.

well sounds like you had wrong expectations and or the system is bug like other said. you also cant sell the starting equipment from my testing. you now understand the risk of doing PvP. knowing a PvP player will lose equipped items the player has to plan to have items they are willing to lose and not their best gear for grinding. the point of PvP is that resources will be scarce, making them worth fighting over. and if a gather has something they don't want to lose they will risk fight you for it. i think right now its hard to plan an ambush unless its a caravan. or to know if someone has good mats to fight over. which i think is just not implemented yet. i think on the dec 20th we will see major improvements just from new systems being turn on

PresentPotato

Xoetik wrote: »

PresentPotato wrote: »

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing. also if u have no money u cant go buy another weapon. if you lose both ur weapons u cant play the game thus my time has ended much like many others.

well sounds like you had wrong expectations and or the system is bug like other said. you also cant sell the starting equipment from my testing. you now understand the risk of doing PvP. knowing a PvP player will lose equipped items the player has to plan to have items they are willing to lose and not their best gear for grinding. the point of PvP is that resources will be scarce, making them worth fighting over. and if a gather has something they don't want to lose they will risk fight you for it. i think right now its hard to plan an ambush unless its a caravan. or to know if someone has good mats to fight over. which i think is just not implemented yet. i think on the dec 20th we will see major improvements just from new systems being turn on

with the corruption system as it stands no one will pvp for any reason no matter the mats.Mabe to high roller guilds its fine but to average people who cant afford to lose gear you now lose half the games fun. why would i pvp ever if i lose everything. there is no reward for pvping at all if it means ill be hunted for doing so. soon the servers will just be PVE andies as i can see this is what u want any ways

PresentPotato

PresentPotato wrote: »

Xoetik wrote: »

PresentPotato wrote: »

I've literally found every item u listed this weekend on my play through within 10 hours of playing. also if u have no money u cant go buy another weapon. if you lose both ur weapons u cant play the game thus my time has ended much like many others.

you now understand the risk of doing PvP. knowing a PvP player will lose equipped items

when there is no reward because its impossible to get it due to corruption soon there will be no risk because no one will be engaging in pvp at all meaning the game will die and just be PVE Andies cutting the games pop more then in half.

PresentPotato

Lineage 2 had the same system and no one cried![/quote]

that game is dead and gone for a reason. classic wow is more then 20 yrs old and is alive and well because it allowed for pvp and pve .

check and mate

Mork

That whole asmongold situation could not be further from the reality of the game, it was a low lvl ganking another low lvl without any consequence, the reality is no one is doing that at higher lvls, there is no real open world pvp.

The reality is they are going so hard on corruption that basically does the same as having pvp toggle on or off, no one wants corruption. Everyone just stays in their lane and try tag bating once in while.
Watch GrappLr searching for pvp videos, the game is just awkward.
This just sucks... youre allowing pvp without actually allowing pvp
All you are doing is essentialy pushing the rules to "toggle" anyway because no one wants to be corrupted and no one is flagging up

Focus on guild / group even 1on1 declaration of wars instead
Make it toggle on and off, while On has increased XP and Drops chance so people are rewarded for the risk and actually have a real incentive to flag up
Turn certain Farming areas and Open World Dungeons into PvP On zones.
This does not work in WoW because theres noooo incentive to flag up and the their pvp combat is beyond pure trash dogpoo vomit

I like the idea of no toggle, but it does not work when to counter griefing you have to go full throttle on corruption, negating the whole PvP point, its basically forcing everyone to "toggle off"

PresentPotato

This does not work in WoW because theres noooo incentive to flag up and the their pvp combat is beyond pure trash dogpoo vomit

Classic wow had PVP servers where u couldnt turn it off guy... jesus christ u make pvpers look dumb af
clearly never played classic wow and are just lying trying to sound cool i bet i find out ur a retail player

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