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All Kickstarter rewards to be offered on website now! (I am not amused)
"Along with many of you, I watched as the project on Kickstarter counted
down in seconds to end a history making month. Because of your support
and dedication to Ashes, we have achieved the highest funding on
Kickstarter that an MMO has ever achieved, and landed 7th of all video
games. That is AMAZING!
Because of the high amount of members that requested alternate payment
methods that Kickstarter did not offer, I have decided that during the
month of June I will extend our crowdsourcing through our website for
those of you who were unable to purchase packages through Kickstarter.
All backers from Kickstarter will benefit from this additional month of
funding with some pretty awesome backer goals and rewards, which we will
be releasing today. We will have the ability for Kickstarter pledges
to be upgraded as well.
I cannot adequately express my personal gratitude that your support means. The past 17 months have been a lot of hard work for everyone on my team. And to see the validation of our effort emboldens us to get Ashes done right. Ashes is my baby, and I pledge to you, that this project will make each of you proud.
This community has our undying love and respect.
Thank You All
Steven"
This was posted to the discord and while I am absolutely sure this will make some happy, I am not amused by it. I pledged to the kickstarter for kickstarter rewards and exclusives in order to help fund the create of the game. If I had known in advance that this would not have been the case and Intrepid would have taken this angle of "website funding" I would not have pledged what I did. I have been down this road with multiple games and learned my lesson on it and I really do not want any part of it if I can help it.
Intrepid knew well beforehand that they were going to do this and I am absolutely disappointed they lied to me about the kickstarter exclusive funding. I am very angry about this and temped to ask for my money to be returned because of it.
I cannot adequately express my personal gratitude that your support means. The past 17 months have been a lot of hard work for everyone on my team. And to see the validation of our effort emboldens us to get Ashes done right. Ashes is my baby, and I pledge to you, that this project will make each of you proud.
This community has our undying love and respect.
Thank You All
Steven"
This was posted to the discord and while I am absolutely sure this will make some happy, I am not amused by it. I pledged to the kickstarter for kickstarter rewards and exclusives in order to help fund the create of the game. If I had known in advance that this would not have been the case and Intrepid would have taken this angle of "website funding" I would not have pledged what I did. I have been down this road with multiple games and learned my lesson on it and I really do not want any part of it if I can help it.
Intrepid knew well beforehand that they were going to do this and I am absolutely disappointed they lied to me about the kickstarter exclusive funding. I am very angry about this and temped to ask for my money to be returned because of it.
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Either way, it doesn't really matter to me. I was planning on pledging, regardless. If others want to get in on the action, albeit at a later date, why deny them? I too like to feel special, but I'm not a curmudgeon, spitefully hoarding because I don't want anyone to have what I've got.
It's quite possible that Steven decided to start the crowd sourcing on KS, because of it's high visibility, then dependent on how it did, decided to move it to Intrepid's own webpage. If this gets more people on board, garnering more capital to work with, to make the game true quality, I'm all for it.
As long as the game is delivered with all that was promised, and is fun, I'm good. That's the main thing, right?
Personally, I chose the Braver of Worlds package for the lifetime subscription. The digital items and titles are fun to have, but are basically just nice additions. Having rare appearance items in game isn't too imperative to my gameplay. I'm getting what I want out of it, and I'm glad others will be able to partake now.
Then this is what should have been stated instead of "after the fact". Like I said above many KS games have gone down this route afterward and I do not want any part it, if it turns out to be true.
Also do not forget that there are those that could not pay through kickstarter, can through other means like bank transfer, paypal etc and now have a means to be able to give their pledge and their backing for a game that holds and shows so much promise with inspiring developers.
I find no negativity with the decision, other the contrary really. More money from more backers means more money being put through for marketing, hiring new employees to make the game being made faster and better with more thought and creativity being spread. It means being able to afford new equipment and programs for the staff (which you would of seen and heard when Steven talked about in the latest stream video) which was being set up.
It means being able to be comfortable in an financial state and move forward without stressing over financial problems. (This is coming from a $400 backer as well)
Exciting times ahead!
I do get why people would be annoyed over this, but hey I pledged what I pledged and got the rewards I got. If others want to throw their money into this game and get rewards, why stop them? The more funding, the better(I feel) the development of this game can go!
Plus, it doesn't hurt that now I'll have two more paychecks come in and give me more time to think about upgrading my pledge and still get those rewards :P
Then again, as that's just my speculation, we will have to wait until the full details are disclosed for further scrutiny.
Again this was known before the kickstarter launched (it is how KS works) and if they planed to cut and paste the rewards afterwords this should have been told to everyone!
They successfully ran a KS campaign, then decided to offer those same exclusive rewards on their website (which has much less accountability) to everyone for a month. At best this is pushing the boundaries of their campaign promises regardless of the reasons.
I am sorry some people could not pledge during the KS due to where they live, but that is how KS works and it is the platform intrepid chose to use. If they intended to offer the same rewards (making them non-KS exclusive) they should have stated what was going on instead of pushing the "kickstater exclusive" wagon.
#1 Anyone who missed the Kickstarter should NOT get access to the "Kickstarter Exclusive" rewards. Come up with some new rewards that everyone gets access to based on the continued crowdfunding, but leave the Kickstarter rewards exclusive as they should be, at least the aesthetic rewards. Things like lifetime subscriptions and such, sure keep those available, but the special pets/effects/skins/mounts etc should remain with the Kickstarter backers.
#2 Allowing Kickstarter backers to upgrade their pledges after-the-fact seems fine to me, they were there at the beginning and some, myself included, could likely put more money towards higher pledges over time. Kickstarter Backers having access to upgrade seems just fine to me.
#3 Please please PLEASE do not Feature Creep! More Backer Goals is fine for aesthetics, but don't bring in more big Content features after-the-fact. We don't want another Star Citizen.
I still feel that I.S is doing good here with allowing people who couldn't use KS, can have their pledge. It shows that I.S actually cares about it's community and are willing to get involved with the people and to help wherever they can. I respect that.
I am going to wait until after the actual rewards are announced to give any judgement. I have put my faith into this game by backing with a lifetime subscription. I fully believe the team at Intrepid will make decisions that will be best for the community.
I mean, if that's you're biggest problem today then consider yourself blessed, friend. Steven has made it clear that he wishes to help out the supporters of his game, and if that means through more rewarded funding options...seems like an obvious choice from a fan-service and business perspective. But that's just me.
They have a normal bank card.
I think the issue lies in the communication. I'm personally upset that this wasn't announced BEFORE the kickstarter ended. We were told that if we didn't pay now, we'd miss out so I'm sure people had to sacrifice other things to afford it. Now those who didn't have to, receive the same. (This is a n assumption, we will see when it goes live)
I'm just glad that you will be able to upgrade from your KS pledge. If that wasn't a thing, I'd be livid
Because the Kickstarter was basicly extended with their own means to include different payment options, here you are denying people to do the same simply because other countries do not tend to use credit cards, and the "debit card" option didn't include at least 3 companies.
I can only laught at you for this petty behaviour.
Not sure I understand the problem. I don't see how this is a negative thing. Are those of us who pledged via Kickstarter cheated out of something? Do we lose anything? Do we not still get everything promised?
Shouldn't we be glad for those who are able to now benefit in some way?
You can laugh all you like, Intrepid chose to use the KS system knowing the limitations then decided to stay mum on copy/pasting rewards to the website until a couple minutes after the campaign ended.
If they had done the right thing and told everyone upfront what was going to happen I would have had no problem and adjusted my pledge accordingly. They did not do that and it gives the impression they did not do so on purpose.
And if you really fear to see too many people with those kickstarter exclusive pets, don't worry, I will most likely not use them anyway.