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Alpha Two Phase II testing is currently taking place five days each week. More information about testing schedule can be found here
If you have Alpha Two, you can download the game launcher here, and we encourage you to join us on our Official Discord Server for the most up to date testing news.
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Most early starts of games from founder packs and ect are for about 2-3 days. You get 6 so its kinda a lot.
Also i understand that you bought the 250$ pack for the access. but in reality the pack contained a lot skins, game time and other stuff. And when you get everything out of the pack, the Key would be kile 20$.
While now, its 90$ key + 15$ game time + 15$ embers.
So you should feel lucky that you got a 20$ key and didnt wait for the 90$ one.
you are just talkin out of your arse lad....
first you give NOT ONE example of your :
"pretty much every game that had a expensive backer pre order that included early access only get spot tests before everyone else gets access way cheaper"
you are just making up excuses lad ...
STEVEN HIMSELF WROTE next to the prize tag persistent Alpha 2.....
HE doubled down in an interview that THIS MEANS 24/7 ACCESS TO THE SERVERS
so HE set those expectations
Now Every Beta backer can get cheaper Alpha 2 access than A2 OG backers .....SAME DAY...
Additionally the key buyers only have to wait 6 freaking days without all the waiting we had to endure
nor is their risk as big ....
.....
second
they never had any prices attached to those cosmetics so you can only assume the price of them , so dont tell me a single cosmetic is worth 20 bucks lol .... that is an estimation you make that you pulled out of your arse ... thats something i dont value as high...
and additionally, you cant actually know what is purchasable for ember .... maybe those cosmetics all suck and noone cares about them... so its only cometics too after all ... not something thats crazy high value ... especially now that the game is not even launched...
... so the only thing that is somewhat tengable is the game time .... and after 8 years of dev time they are about to get into ALPHA 2 ......that is most likely to go on for at least 1 year in phase 3 ...
and thats something i wont believe ... i will say that maybe 10% of the game is finished, if everything on their roadmap actually is done as we enter phase 3 ... i dont believe that for one second after this shitshow, that they actually deliver anything in time lol...
so i guess we will need about 5 years till launch if "launch" actually happens when everything that was promised is done .... and i dont believe that for a second though....
i guess he cant wait that long and will "launch" the game when he needs the 15$ a month ...
and the game at that point will still lack MOST of promised features ...
dont defend this mess with some made up excuses lad ... its just terrible that he didnt give us(og backers) access before opening sales again ... i dont care how broken or unfinished this mess is ... i want access before anyone who didnt take the risk or didnt buy og aplha 2 access ... and not only freaking days .... wtf .....
OG alpha 2 was delayed again ... it will start in may ....
these spot tests before the alpha 2 launch are cool and i really will enjoy them ... im happy that we dont have to wait till og alpha 2 is launched .... BUT DONT CALL THIS SHIT ALPHA 2 ..... dont piss on my leg and call it rain
Throne and liberty - 5 days early access, WOW War withinm - 3 days early access, Re: EA Play - 3 days. Star wars Outlaws - 3 days
Thats how tests are. Tho a lot of games make alpha tests after the game is practically fully done. And people get the wrong impression that alpha tests means to just enjoy the full game.
But Steven mentioned countless times that this will be true test, and that people should not have expectations from any other game testing phase.
So if they need 3 days at the beginning for testing the game, then you get to play 3 days.
You are talking as if Steven lied to you. But this is only because you are not here to test the game. You will be disappointed about many other things trough the testing phases, since your expectations dont match the reality.
THESE WHOLE 3 TESTING PHASES ARE TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER, NOT FOR YOU TO ENJOY THE GAME!!
The game will be up 24/7 when they need testing results from a 24/7 game sessions. Not before this.
They absolutely did have prices attached to the cosmetics. Once you'd bought a Pack, you had access to buy the cosmetics individually, and so were shown the prices. And yes, the highest priced cosmetics were $25.
You just need to let this one go. People asked for more Alpha-2 keys, and Intrepid provided. They can pick their own prices, and they have done. People are paying those prices. You are in a very small minority of people that seem to have got waaaay too butthurt about this.
Maybe take a small break. Come back again in a few weeks. Get yourself some clarity and perspective.
I think this answer is invalid. The question we need to ask ourselves is: would the people who feel they are being treated unfavorably have bought Cosmetics Packs if the product had been presented in a different way?
The exclusive character referred to a limited period of time is distorted and could constitute grounds for deception.
If the OP seems to be reacting emotionally, we must not impose an emotional solution but a legal one.
For the OP, I would advise you to:
1. Gather a group of potential victims of the same or similar harm.
2. Attempt to resolve the problem peacefully, by requesting compensation in a signed e-mail to Intrepid. This reparation may take the form of a refund, but Intrepid will certainly propose a solution that avoids impacting its cash flow.
3. If nothing is done or you are not satisfied with the compensation, take legal action. This is a complicated process, particularly in view of the multiple elements of extraterritoriality. But complicated doesn't mean impossible and the company's HQ in California (to be verified) allows for a large number of appeals without necessarily spending a lot of money, as is often imagined.
4. It is also possible to report Intrepid to the European authorities on the grounds of pentential violations of certain directives relating to consumer rights and corporate duty of diligence/transparency (regardless of the country in which they are based).
We really going down this rabbit hole.
Im to lazy to start doing law debates on this forum.
I mean there are dozens of topics about the same thing. So let the guys make a group and take actions instead of flooding the forum. Sometimes there are some ways of protesting much more efficient than screaming in the street.
This, I've said it before, these guys are milking players, think they know there is tons of money to be made by pushing back the release as well, they can get another 100 sets out, bought by god knows how many people.
Thing is MMO players are so desperate for a game, they willing to forgive, or turn a blind eye to anything, and you will always get the unscrupulous jumping in to take advantage, yes looking at you AoC
I have zero trust in these guys what so ever.
That’s certainly a very extreme measure to take in response to an unsurprisingly delay in a large scale development process.
Additionally, new purchasers are buying access for more than the bundle purchasers did. There’s clear and easily tracked pricing influences for cosmetics in the packs, so old alpha2 access was much cheaper than the new access (which is fine imo, early bird gets the worm and all)
Rebalancing the beta upgrade pricing was as good move, though it’d be nice to see a proper article posted regarding all the adjustments and prices if they’ve been finalized now.
From what I recall was said. They said clearly it wouldn't give access to beta. They probaly decided to backtrack on that, due to the backlash they got
but maybe they don't want that many people to play in alpha. have you considered that? have you considered they already have more than enough and that's why the steep price of the new keys?
I can understand the whole Comment. However ... ...
What harmed my Ability to trust a little bit - is this cold, calculated " When do i shit into People's Expectations WHEN for the best Moment to do so ? " - from dear Sir Steven himself.
We were told for over half a Year that the Alpha Two would come in Quarter Three of 2024. And in September 2023 it was announced that it will come in 2024.
Now i am kinda aware of what is going on. People started to get more and more butthurt when the Game didn't release in the likes of November 2021.
What i don't know is - > did Sir Steven and his mighty Crew ever told People before :
" Ey Yo, dear Fans. We are developing an Engine that will EEEAAASILY TAKE until the Month of May 2024 or the likes to become functioning/stable enough - so that we can put "MASSIVE" in MMO back ?!? "
Probably not, right ?
So the cold Calculations began in Sir Steven's Head and the Heads of his mighty Crew ... ... ... ... "WHEN" to announce an Alpha Two ? Before People let the Game ULTIMATELY die - in their minds and hearts ?
Yikes !! September 2023. We pushed it now for a while already since late 2021 - hopefully this is not to late to make People come back - despite them probably being pissed off as hell now.
Then the "Quarter Three" Announcement in around December(?) 19th(ish?) ... ... ... ... ... gotta keep counting on People's desperate Hope and Copium. And the ones who developed a rightful Hatred for the likes of Activision Lizzard and other, incompetent or arrogant Companies. (lol)
Oh sheesh. June is here. And the Codings take their sweet time as always.
Oh, sh~eeesh. July is here. And the Codings take their sweet time as always.
Oh, DAMN. August is here - aaannnd ... ... ... ... ... okay it is still taking forever. Better say now that we need to delay it once again, before People get anymore pissed off in the coming Weeks where they have waited even longer when hearing the next Delay.
And - HEEREE - WEE - AAARE.
I see the "fine, barely existing Test-Weekends" as a tiny Delay as well. Hell i as someone who wants to play a Summoner one Day in the future in case i will still be alive when Ashes launches,
have to wait for May 1th in 2025 or more until i can finally even just "test" my already favourite Archetype then.
Sir Steven and his mighty Crew are carefully balancing the Weights. Butthurt versus Hope. Hope versus Butthurt.
When to announce what or anything at all ?!? - and when to kick People into the nuts with admitting that there need to be Delays still ?
There is a Reason i can forgive anything, despite feeling so betrayed and thrown under the Bus at times.
" GOOD - things - TAKE - time. "
And since i just know Ashes of Creation aspires to be a VEERY good MMO Game - and i hear from time to time again that not th~aaaat many People work on it at dear Intrepid,
i just have no Choice but to accept the facts that everything is - as it is.
And all the "SCAM !! SCAM!!"-Cry'ers will never shut up anyways. It is their Life-work, hell - there REASON FOR EXISTENCE to behave like annoying Adult-Children throwing a Temper-Tantrum in the (virtual) Streets of the Internet - screeching and trashing around everytime something is not going according to their will.
I bet most of these People have no Idea how tough coding and programming an MMO can be.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
✓ Maybe i look after a Guild sometime soon
then why are you posting a recruitment thread?
why are you here?
if you are mad about this and have zero trust, then I hope you are also mad at every fast food place in the world for using the color red on their logo, or at anyone who offers discounts or coupon codes, or any way to sell at all.
No, it's not extreme at all, it's normal to take legal action if you feel you've been wronged. It's nothing personal. And the potential damage may not be just a delay in delivery.
I bet that those who make the effort to take legal action will be discreetly compensated by Intrepid and the matter will be settled out of court.
It's no big deal for Intrepid to give a few cosmetics and two or three months' free subscription to a dozen unhappy people. In any case, it's much better than incurring a reputational risk.
Of course part of it is wanting cash games cost a lot to make! I am sure they have had wishful thinking or suddenly they want to add more stuff that goes off budget. Look at sony spending 200 million on that dumpster fire concord or GTA 6 from what i have read is at somewhere between 1.3 to 2 Billion to make so far. Also UE5 takes a cut of games made with it so who knows what Intrepid has to pay especially if they have 100k people running around on persistant servers even if they are alpha 2.
More to the point of a 100 dollars it is a filter to screen out those who are serious and those who are not plain and simple! I am not saying that people who can't afford the 100+ are not serious but money is the easiest, quickest and cheapest way to filter.
It's really not normal. The normal thing to do is to sort it out with the other person and come to an agreement.
And, given that Intrepid haven't done anything wrong, there's next to zero chance that you'd win in court, and would possibly even have to pay their legal costs for being such a douche. They sure as hell aren't going to throw free things at you.
It's exactly what I answerd already :
If you consider that Intrepid did not do anything wrong so there is no reason to complain