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See, youre just running away you dont know how to focus on a conversation
Youre the one on other reality.
My single and only point is that youve said that he accepted being streamsnipped when he was clearly butthurt. Thats it nothing more youre just stuffing stuff.
Ill just shut up now its pointless to talk with you
Ps: the kos order was even before the mass report. You dont know what youre talking about.
Steven, you got enough popcorn?
Okay.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
during the weekend the consequence of killing a non combatant being corruption was not applying due to a bug, as attacking a white name who doesnt engage back (engageing back turns their name purple) on EVERY kill should envoke corruption with it stacking on repeated offences not after a set number of kills as thor incorrectly states, thor stream footage from his perspective shows 4 kills at the shrine and the time he walks away saying he said not to kill anymore by time camera returns to location several minutes afterwards his group is still there killing the player so it is more then 4 kills
link to combat chart showing kill on non combatant (white name) should produce corruption https://imgur.com/a/gsbjRyv
Items of importance are in bold
01:51:34
Thor is writing bug report, heads out of cave to write uninterrupted.
Axzell takes massive hit, presumably first PVP hit.
01:51:41
Khronos states "PVP'd by Apex Order"
01:51:52
Thor Drops, says "were gonna come back and kill them, get all of the violence, we are going to go kill these guys.
(Does not yet know if stream sniping)
01:52:10
Thor says to guild "yeah we're gonna do that, go kill them right now"
Mec (Apex) speaks "<3 we won't loot" n/ "love you"
Thor states (to Apex, presuming they are watching) you just stream sniped us, we are coming back and killing your entire guild, and we will keep you on KoS for the rest of the game... Permanent Shit list.
01:53:15
Khronos states, "If they want to apologize they can come cry about it on our discord server."
01:54:10
Spots Mec (Apex), kills them, loots them,
01:55:24
Chat asks how do you know it was a stream snipe.
Thor paraphrases Mec's "<3" in chat. stating they (Apex) did that specifically to be seen.
01:56:35
Chat: You got played by a basic.
Thor: No it's just a PVP party, where they were attacking us because they were stream sniping, and now our guild has them at war. like, we'll just kill the anytime we see them. It's not really that big of a deal. Yeah that's how it goes, dude.
Khronos: "Yeah the rest of the group ran off, that's what happens. When they can't stream snipe and have the advantage, they run off and cry about it. It's invariably what happens.
Thor: Yeap, and now they are gonna run off and cry about it and we are just going to kill them for the next several weeks, and that's just kinda how it goes. Welcome to a social sandbox video game.
Khronos: It's gonna be "we're getting bullied by the streamer guild" and not "we aggressed them while they were on stream cause we knew they were doing a bug report"
Thor: Yeah, naw, get wrecked. That's how it's gonna go. And they can come back and parlay about it. and give some kind of concession, or we'll just keep killing them (keep on KoS). Welcome to fighting against EVE players "We'll leave you alone until you bother us, and then we'll kill everything that you have"
01:58:15
VladCervantes (hencefore Vlad) of Apex shows up, dies, (1)
Thor reads whisper "we didn't loot you, we didn't want to loot you", welcomes him to war
01:59:17
Vlad respawns at shrine, (where they were Pirates were already standing at)
Thor say to kill him again (2)
01:59:54
Khronos states Vlad respawned again, dies (3)
Thor thinks Vlad is purposely dying to them to get corruption "So don't kill him to many times"
02:00:50
Thor reading /whisper "He (Vlad?) is trying to claim our guild tried to jump them (Apex?) earlier.
Thor (presuming /whisper is also watching stream) don't care, could have reported it (to Pirate Diplo)
02:01:17
Khronos "If people have problems with our members, they can reach out to us, that's what we have diplomacy for"
Thor "Yeap"
Vlad respawns, Khronos says stop, as they will get corruption if they keep farming Vlad
Vlad dies one more time. (4)
02:41:45
Thor reads a whisper "this guy, this guy who messaged us" (Vlad?) says
"It's not cool what they are doing, just finding out about everything, I don't even know how to leave a guild. Anyways, I guess they're all reporting you. I left their discord and just chilling"
Thor responses "Yeah, if you want to come join us, Vlad, come join us. Absolutely dude. And I am sorry your guild has made such a foolish decision. And their mass reporting on me is not the play. When you screw up in PVP and bring the wrath of a larger guild upon you, crying to the GMs is probably the most shameful action you can take."
End Transcript.
Take-away (TLDR):
1. Thor accepted they (Pirates) got PVP'd and did the EVE thing and ordered the guild to go after them, prior to believing they stream sniped.
2. Apex only got onto the Pirate's KoS after Thor believes (at least Mec) was stream sniping him.
3. Thor accepted getting stream sniped was possible, but "not that big of a deal" and "that's how it goes"
4. Thor was willing to take them off KoS if they apologized and made concessions.
5. Pirates were huddling around the shrine prior to Vlad respawning on it.
6. Thor informed Pirates to stop killing Vlad as to not risk corruption.
7. Vlad was the one who brought attention of the suspected mass reporting to Thor.
great attempt at a white knight as you have given white knight like responses on other posts that oppose thor yet the KOS was given at the message saying 'we wont loot you' which at the time was a stream snipe call and was considerable amount actions BEFORE the reporting was mentioned so please next time you quote a timeline, make sure it is correct
yes, the KoS was just a normal "You killed us, we kill you. YAY! PvP game!" we fight for a bit then is done with it. If you think KoS is "crying" then idk what to tell you, it's just normal GvG. You think we are ganan be like "Oh meet here for a good old romp! we fisty cuffs from 8pm to 9pm!"
As for the stream snipping, he seemed annoyed cus he was doing a bug report sure but he has be very clear he doesn't care about it.
No one said KOS is crying
No one said KOS was bad
You and the other dude are just desperate. You don't know how to have a conversation, bye
What are you raging at? I'm trying to have a conversation nerd. you're the one crying and taking their ball and going home.
Well I'ma go play the Alpha, have fun being angry at nothing
read your post again, i'm the one angry? you guys need a brain surgery
Your "single and only point "is that Thor was butthurt. I did not see that. Thor seemed cool as a cucumber.
You on the other hand are in here telling people they need brain surgery.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
You're just dishonest
Can we stop with the personal attacks?
Most people don't think Thor was mad.
If they did I don't think he would be gaining members and viewers from this.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
I'm watching him right now, I do like him, you white knights just don't know how to have a conversation, I understand its ok.
You're dishonest and you're the one who started the personal attacks, now cry butthurt
Thanks for entertaining me at work.
It's A 2 time now.
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
I did at least expect them to behave and focus on development during the Alpha though, considering the guy's supposed excellence at the profession. Spawn killing seems like too obvious of a no-go not to at least apologise for it.
Turning report threats into ingame drama also seems in poor taste. If you're getting reported in an Alpha, that should be something you sort out with the mods, instead of further adding fuel to the fire. Especially when you have the kind of pull Thor has; not like you'll actually end up banned, if you're playing by the rules.
To be fair there are many people in the world that would watch a stream or join a group to join a hate bandwagon, I'm not saying that's what's happening here but, it is a thing for haters joining hatred, it's why drama baiting is so effective in content creation field
KOS was ordered and cemented well before the reports talk even began
thank you
When ingame mechanics war is made maybe but verbal declaration doesn't negate corruption
Funny how you point fingers at joining a train yet your also siding with a train that even with literal video of the events still have unproven accusations and shaky claims to their story
Holy shit now the english teachers are getting involved!
No one is debating that. KoS for retaliation/presumed stream sniping is well within reason. The PERMANENT ORDER was issued after it came to light that they were getting their entire guild to mass report him because they felt like they were getting griefed. Regardless whether you think what they did reportable (I 100% do not), trying to mass report with people who were not there or part of this drama is a clear violation of tos and well worth a permanent kos order.
Another thor echo lol, the kos was perma before the reporting was even mentioned
Well, yeah.
The actions of Apex warranted a KoS order.
Doesn't matter. The KoS was *earned* before there was an attempt at reporting.
The attempt at reporting just proved that the permanent KoS Order was a good call.
The fact that they said on stream to expect literally exactly this thread should tell you they know the kind of people Apex are.
I'm fairly well on record here for my opinions on game streamers (if I repeat my honest opinion here, I will be banned). I'm in no way an "echo" of Thor - but this thread kind of proves that Apex are a joke.
this is basically what happened.
a scrawny drunk dude tried to pick on the big guy at the bar - big guy proceeds to absolutely repeatedly stomp scrawny dude into nothingness while scrawny dude through a blood smile says "hah, big guy crying"
PvE focused: WoW / FFXIV / Lineage II
Sandbox: Ultima Online / Darkfall / Mortal Online
Big Influence: SNES Fighting games / Starcraft / Diablo II / Smite